# A bit lost with shows/senes **URL:** \ **Category:** CQ General Discussions\ **Created:** [14 May 2026 14:21 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/a-bit-lost-with-shows-senes/32037 "2026-05-14T14:21:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JB\_J](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/jb_j/32/8313_2.png) [@JB\_J](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/JB_J)\ **Post date:** [14 May 2026 14:21 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/a-bit-lost-with-shows-senes/32037/1 "2026-05-14T14:21:57Z")
Hi, I’m a little lost with the scenes/shows. I mix two different groups, so I’ve created a show for each group and a scene in each show (maybe this is a mistake?). When I recall a show, do I have to recall the scene too? Here my current workflow, but maybe there is better approach: For each group: - Load the show - Make the changes - Save the scene - Save the show ---
**Author:** ![jwachtel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4491bb/32.png) [@jwachtel](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/jwachtel)\ **Post date:** [14 May 2026 14:56 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/a-bit-lost-with-shows-senes/32037/2 "2026-05-14T14:56:24Z")
You can, and probably should, use a different show for each group. This will give you more flexibility as things come up for each. Then, yes, save a scene for each. When you load a show for one of the groups you then recall the scene. If you decide you need to make some changes for a particular point in the show, you can record another scene for it and recall it when needed. Scenes are really helpful because they snapshot everything and can be recalled at will. ---
**Author:** ![daver2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@daver2](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/daver2)\ **Post date:** [14 May 2026 17:53 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/a-bit-lost-with-shows-senes/32037/3 "2026-05-14T17:53:59Z")
That sounds overkill to me. Most things are stored in a scene, so are recalled when you load that scene. However, there are a couple of things that are stored in a show that can catch you out. The key items being: 1. Input/Output stereo linking. 2. USB source and sample rate. What is stored in a show and a scene is described within the documentation. I would have a default scene for each group you mix for to act as a starting point and load that default scene for the group you are mixing for at the start of the session. Tweak the mixer settings to suit and store to a working scene for that night. Either that or subdivided the available scenes into groups with one group of scenes for each group of musicians/vocalists that you mix for. If you do link input or output channels as stereo pairs (e.g. for a keyboard) use the same linked channels for all groups you mix for. Dave ---
**Author:** ![JB\_J](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/jb_j/32/8313_2.png) [@JB\_J](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/JB_J)\ **Post date:** [18 May 2026 05:44 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/a-bit-lost-with-shows-senes/32037/4 "2026-05-18T05:44:03Z")
My main concern is that I have different links for both bands. One is a Rock band (no stereo links), the other has 2 stereo keyboards and a stereo guitar (quad cortex). Having a show for each band seems definitely to be the bet approach. Thanks for your answers. ---
**Author:** ![daver2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@daver2](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/daver2)\ **Post date:** [18 May 2026 06:03 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/a-bit-lost-with-shows-senes/32037/5 "2026-05-18T06:03:03Z")
At least you have arrived at that decision based upon facts… Dave ---
**Author:** ![MWhetzel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MWhetzel](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/MWhetzel)\ **Post date:** [13 October 2026 00:26 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/a-bit-lost-with-shows-senes/32037/6 "2026-10-13T00:26:27Z")
This was very helpful to me (a newbie). I come from Mackie (Master Fader). Now, since I can only Mute one input per Mute Group I cannot use my norm… which Im wondering if creating a Scene is the ONLY option? 1: Everything Muted (inputs and mains) so there are no pops when equipment is turned on/off. 2: Only one channel and mains live for pre-recorded intermission music. 3: All USED input and output channels live when were ready to perform. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![daver2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@daver2](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/daver2)\ **Post date:** [13 October 2026 06:48 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/a-bit-lost-with-shows-senes/32037/7 "2026-10-13T06:48:07Z")
Welcome. But I am not sure what you are actually asking? Dave ---
**Author:** ![daver2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@daver2](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/daver2)\ **Post date:** [14 October 2026 23:26 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/a-bit-lost-with-shows-senes/32037/8 "2026-10-14T23:26:25Z")
I had a thought. 1. You do not need to mute the mains outputs. Leave that active all the time. Proving the input channels are muted then connecting instruments will not cause a problem. 2. Create a mute group to just mute the intermission music channel input. Technically, this isn’t required as it is only one mute group driving one input channel - so a bit of overkill - but it does mean that you can control everything from the mute group buttons. 3. Create a mute group to mute all of the band vocals and instruments. 4. If you really want to, you could create a further mute group to mute the main outputs and any foldack AUX outputs. How would that fit with your workflow? Dave