This is a sensitive question:
And I claim to know nothing about programing!
What determines the sensitivity of the apps?
Is that a programing scenario?
I have been looking at other Mixer Apps and comparing the various touch sensitivity and really just to see different perspectives of other brands/options.
Just discussion. 
this is a very good topic!
I use a Mackie DL32R for virtually every wedding reception that I do because I just donât need the luxuries of an actual console with real faders like my Qu24, which I absolutely love. Unfortunately, when I need to quickly scroll to get to the lead guitar fader, I have to manually stop the iPad from scrolling when I see the gtr channel, and I absolutely can not move the fader until the sideways âscrollingâ movement comes to a complete stop, then I wait even loger for the screen redraw to take place and theeeennnnnnnn I can move the fader, horrible behavior compared to Mackieâs Master Fader app. The Mackie Master Fader 4.2 app is balistic fast and so responsive. Only when you are intimately familiar with the Mackie app and then you find yourself on a job where you are forced to use the GLD or QU app do you discover just how horrible it is. There is so much improvement that needs to be made in this area of the QU app AND the GLD app.
Also, on a different subject, one that I am still beating this dead horse over, if the GLD app can have different colors for channels, why in the world does the Qu app still have green for every stinkin channel? This makes me so angry that this has still not been addressed. Not only has it still not been changed, nobody from A&H has responded to my consistent constant comments about this.
Dan
I think that the Qu Pad app should have a setting in the configuration that allows you to turn off the behavior where you have to touch and hold a fader before moving it. This gets in the way when you have bigger bands.
I have used other apps which do not behave this way, and prefer that I can just move the faders without having to touch them in a very specific spot.
I too agree the app is less than desirable compared to several others. It works and I do shows on it but get frustrated trying to adjust tiny horizontal sliders for comp threshold etc. But mainly the faders. I have tested some other apps that do work much better. As popular as this feature is and I use it to promote sales I would very much like it improved or severely overhauled.
Thanks guys.
I thought it was just me having issues.
a setting in the configuration that allows you to turn off the behavior where you have to touch and holdThat might be the go? I know that opens the possibility to accidental adjustments!
A question:
Is the GLD Remote app more responsive when actually connected, rather than in the Demo or off-line mode?
I find the level adjustment to be lagging as well sometimes⌠Works great most of the time but sometimes there is a second or two lag where the sliders donât move up/down .
Thanks for all of your posts!
Interesting to view trends or patterns espeically when theyâre emerging within this industry.
If one can just be âinfront ofâ the Hind-Sight then one might be onto a winner!
I have recently looked at Yamaha Stagemix, Midas Mixtender, Mackie Master Fader.
They all have certain features I quite like! eg: long throw faders, viewing all EQueâs in a bank [like old school EQ racks] quick find of banks of 8 faders along the topâŚ
But the reason I looked at them is because Iâm looking for another console!
A next level up from QU32.
In the past I would have looked at the console First! and of course the local A & H being the people association that I know and have come and trust & relate to.
Now Iâm not so sure.
Iâm looking at what I can do with the app and the feel it has of being able to give to me what I want as a monitor mixer OR FOH mixer when the desk is used for Monitors or just whateverâŚ
I looked at a business [about 8 years ago] here in NZ making extremely large [kitch table sized] touch screens for DJs that were shipped world wide and thought. Na⌠thats never going to be the go!?
If someone could come up with a âblank canvas template designâ where you just added the features and style that you requireâŚ
They might be ahead in the field!
I am grateful & appreciate everything A & H do and Iâm sure they are extremely busy working on dLive app
Original Post: Lets all hope the sensitivity can be addressed.
Cheers
Is the GLD Remote app more responsive when actually connected, rather than in the Demo or off-line mode?
It works about the same as the Qu app. The faders are a little shorter than the Qu but the response is about the same in both Qu and GLD.
A next level up from QU32
GLD? Itâs a really great console to work with. I love the feature set, and the extreme flexibility, and the fact that it can share stageboxes with Qu.
the GLD you spend the whole time switching between layersâŚ
YUK!!!
Not musical to mix on at all.
That doesnât mean that I think you canât produce concert quality musical mixes.
the GLD you spend the whole time switching between layers
Not if itâs properly configured. The only time that I have to change layers is during sound check. Once things are up and running, you can generally work on a single layer by using DCAs and/or subgroups. On the app side, itâs the same as Qu, having custom layers in the app.
Not musical to mix on at all.
Not sure what you meant by that, because you are literally using the same pre-amps and converters if you are using the remote stage boxes and the Qu algos are based on GLDâs and iLiveâs.
Agree with Scott. I have both and love working on either. QU is a little faster but no problems on GLD. Big input count yes you have more layers but good planning can keep that at minimum switching.
I bought the GLD OneMix app and it seems ok.
I played around with the Demo GLD Remote app andâŚ
I find the faders âshort throwâ irritating.
If there was a way to lift that whole middle line up would be good.
Original post was âSensitity issueâ
Well Iâve tried many other brand iPad mix apps, the QU app, GLD app and use the iLive Mixpad app and I have to say - I also hate the short throw faders, the stupid slow scroll and wait problem, no mix levels overview, and the lack of an ability to quickly select a different/NEXT or PREVIOUS mix if they arenât on a current visible mix layer. Also on mixpad - no scene control, no FX editing, mixer settings etc so a very limited app IMO. I would also LOVE to have PAFLâs to use with wireless in ears. I only use Mixpad where I need to be physically away from the console - for stage monitors and remote FOH/matrix levels and eq at soundcheck as itâs a pain for any real mixing usage. Donât get me wrong - I am grateful for what Mixpad CAN do - but time moves on and our expectations shift as others offer better solutions.
One of the bands I run sound for is called Rockin Chair.
They have two GLD consoles, one for mains and one for monitors.
Everyone in the band except the drums and lead singer use âin earâ monitoring with ME1 controllers.
Basically the monitor GLD just sits there. Using two consoles allows me the freedom to mix FOH and not be concerned with messing with their processing.
I said I spend the whole time switching between layers, and that is exaclty what I meant to say because that is what is necessary to accomplish a good mix, which changes constantly. Vocal harmonies change all the time and mixing using DCAs
is not good enough for the constant solos between guitars, steel guitar, acoustic guitar, banjo and the list goes on and on.
There are about 40 inputs and I use 8 DCAs.
Even though I have the convenience of using 8 DCAs, if I am riding the level of two guitarists doing a duet, as soon as that is over I have to switch to the vocal layer to make sure the vocalistâs level is exactly correct, as soon as I determine that it is, I need to go back (very quickly) and return the two guitar levels to where they now need to be. Then back to the vocals layer to mix harmonies because quite often the vocal melody is swapped by two different singers. It is constant mixing.
Both drum kits (not used on every song) are on a layer by themselves.
All the keys, one Yamaha, one Nord, one Hammond with Leslie (thatâs three mics) are on another layer by themselves,
add to this three percussion mics, flute and a few other things and one hand is on the layer buttons throughout the concert.
I would not complain as much if these consoles were the GLD 112 instead of the GLD 80. When the band purchased them, I donât think the 112 was yet available.
Bottom line, it takes longer to do things on a console that requires constant switching of layers. Extreme high quality mixing/production requires access to any input immediately and when 1 second is added to so many (cues) it is extremely frustrating that the console (because of itâs limited faders) can not keep up, I know I know, thatâs how most digital consoles work⌠but not mine, mine is a Qu24 and I never need to switch layers, but then again all of my inputs are on one layer. 
Here is the band I am talking aboutâŚ
But the Qu24 doesnât have the 40 inputs you are looking for with that band.
Itâs all a case of compromise.
Back in the good old analogue days I recall a cue in a show (Return to the Forbidden Planet) where I needed to change two faders - one at each end of the desk. I was a young lad at the time, plenty of growing still to do - and I could only just reach both faders without lying on any othersâŚ
you are correct as usual Bob!
When I mix Rockin Chair band I use their GLD consoles, mine is a Qu24 which I like a whole lot more, mainly because of fader count. I also am blessed to have an AR2412 and AR84 so I do have 30 inputs as long as I donât mind having some of the stereo keyboards on layer two
Fader count is important - I like a number of custome layers on a digital desk as well⌠The M300 at church has a couple, the X32 has none (ouch), the QU series has one.
ive got a BCF2000 which I am trying to get to with with TouchMix on android⌠Then I get eight extra faders, in all sorts of configurationsâŚ
Iâm starting to realise that digital scribble strips are a non negotiable on my next desk. Preferably with a prominent mix indicator as well!
If I was going to replace the church desk tomorrow then it would be an X32 producer (space is constrained) with a pair of S16 snakes. The total cost is less than a QU32, and only just more than the Roland stage boxesâŚ
It might not be the best sounding desk in the world, but it is powerful, flexible and economically sane. The other thing to consider is that 98% of the congregation wonât ever hear the alternatives - itâs definitely âgood enoughâ.
For me, mixing gigs etc, I stick by the QU decision.
Iâm sure Iâd still do a good job with an X32 model, but this is a hobby (although the QU does also get hired out, so the 2412 was the result of a single hire (which needed it)⌠Pretty sure that is one area the QU is more valuable than an X32 would be
Argh we have gone right off OP!
Love the chat though!
Just re-affirms all of my thoughts!
You are NOT alone Bob & Dan!
And thatâs why I use multiple mixers in very large jobs at FOH solely for surface area
I have been experimenting with the GLD app in Demo Mode.
Terrible!
Its probably an ok app onced synced in on-line and I see you can have up to 16 of them !!! ? wow
GLD has been out probably about 4 years and I doubt now I will buy one unless someone wanted me to learn it to be a demonstrator!
And I doubt that isnât going to happen.
And I have studied for a very long week!
However âŚOriginal Post
Before I buy a mixer âthese daysâ I want to look at the app now.
I just can not believe there is no [iPad] dLive app? [even a âbasic appâ]
Sure there is the Micro-$oft dLive directorâŚ
Iâm not going to buy a $4k Micro$ surface-pro touch screen to check out a dLive.
beta testers!
dpdan, I feel for you. I am so lucky to have many musicians who can do their own dynamics, once I get a basic balance. Bands that require micro-mixing are a pain. Could it be because they are on in-ears and donât really know how the room sounds? Iâd think that IEMs would help their dynamics, but every band I have had that used IEMs needed micro-mixingâŚ
You are earning your keep - I hope they pay you well.
Hi Lou,
I think a band this big is going to require constant tweaking.
Personally, I am not sold on âin earâ monitoring. It is a wonderful thing for stage volume because that band only uses two monitors (same mix) for the drummers and one for the lead singer.
That allows me to make it sound exactly how I want and thatâs a very good thing.
Unfortunately I think most musicians that use âin earâ probably do not hear enough of the rest of the band, it causes them to not even bother to balance themselves with the other sounds.
It is what it is,
This past weekend we had two outdoor jobs and it was great weather, low 80âs.