Analog Insert Latency (average) ?

Anybody measure, or know the exact latency introduced by a hardware unit via a hardware insert (analog). I tried nulling with the channel delay and can’t get it as close as I would expect or need for critical use. I want to try some of my hardware on some busses and channels for studio work, but need to get the latency sorted and I would prefer to avoid loop back tests if I can help it lol. 0.2 MS is about as good as it gets thus far. I tried looking for published specs but the manual says nothing other than they aren’t compensated.

Thanks

I would also depend on the latency of the device (or device chain) that you are inserting. If you just used a cable to go from out to in I’m guessing that it adds around another .7ms to that source.

No it’s not .7, that’s the quoted fixed latency of the desk end to end. Loop back via USB with simultaneous click to two channels with one having an analog insert in bypass (the unit not the insert)shows 36 samples between transients at 96K. Is there a way to get finer control of the channel offset or switch to samples?

Would be nice if A&H would comment.

36 samples works out to be 0.375ms. I would actually expect it to be higher, but yes an official statement from A&H would be nice.

Hi Folks,

yesterday I measured the latency of my SQ5 in combination with the AR2412.
Here’s the result!

Greetings,
dd

@John

there is no average

just a minimum for each place that latency can happen

I am reviving this old Thread because I find myself continiously be interested in some of the Hardware Preamps, Compressors and other stuff that is available.

But before taking the plunge and buy a Unit I wanted to ask if it is feasible for my intended use.

The SQ is the Centerpiece of my Studio and sometimes I like to record as much of the musicians at the same time as possible. To improve the Vocals already on the way in I want to buy a Channel Strip like a Focusrite ISA 430 MK2.
The Signal Chain would be Mic–>Focusrite ISA 430 MK2–> SQ–>DAW (over USB at the moment).
The other Instruments connect directly to the SQ or are connected over the DX168 Box.

So long Story short: would the Channel Strip before the SQ give me latency I need to be concerned about when recording all musicians of a Band at the same time or doesn´t it matter because the external Hardware is added in the chain before any A/D conversion takes place?

Maybe someone can share their experience in that area.
Thanks!

mmh… The additional latency will be the same as the Focusrite provides… I don’t know that device – look into Fokusrite specifications for latency.

I would say, since you are obviously using your Focusrite channel strip purely analog, there will be also no additional latency.

Wow, analog devices add latency?
How did we compensate that in the 1970s? :thinking:

There is a modern tool available to find information about such devices, it’s called internet.

Why being jerky?

Thanks I did Not know about “Internet”. How can I find it? BTW IT IS Not my Job to know all existing devices in the world and wheater they are analog or digital.

And in this Case it is Not really my Job to Look that Up for the original question.

And IT IS really Not your Job being impolite. In the last Time you really starting Up with that … Maybe Go Back a Bit?

Or are you trying to be the new Forum Bully?

This is a forum about technical devices, and the lack of very basic technical understanding is frightening, sometimes.

To find out something about the ISA 430 took less than a minute.

Yeah but IT IS Not my Job. I answered the question, maybe mediocre, but answered IT.

You bullied me. That is Not ok.

And BTW I have two degrees in engineer ing, so I am quote Sure to understand the differences in those technologies very well.

Stop being a jerky please.

What? Why do you think that?

"Wow, analog devices add latency?
How did we compensate that in the 1970s? "

“There is a modern tool available to find information about such devices, it’s called internet.”

That feels Like being called a complete idiot.

No need to apologize BTW…

There is no need to add anything.

Then welcome as our new forum bully.

Focusrite is known to most people primarily for its audio interfaces, which of course always have a latency.
I assume that Tobi perhaps didn’t even know that they also make very high-quality, purely analogue products and was therefore a bit superficial and assumed that this was also about something digital and that you just had to add the latency to it.
Now I had actually already “corrected” the topic to analogue and Patrick_P certainly took note of that and everything was OK.

I don’t really know why Tobi’s answer has to be made fun of again a day later.
There are these types of smart-asses here and everywhere who you can maybe teach a little lesson in sarcastic way.
But Tobi didn’t belong in that category in my opinion.

But maybe I’m wrong …
… and there were reasons …
We shouldn’t ask about it.