# Bug in 1.4.4. when changing scenes

**URL:** <https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454>\
**Category:** SQ Troubleshooting\
**Created:** [20 February 2020 11:32 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454 "2020-02-20T11:32:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![andreschaier](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/andreschaier/32/525_2.png) [@andreschaier](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/andreschaier)\
**Post date:** [20 February 2020 11:32 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/1 "2020-02-20T11:32:57Z")

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Hi guys,

i found a bug in 1.4.4. when changing scenes.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/allenheathdigitalcommunity/original/2X/8/8adfc3b36848a3bfb71b3b0ef2b872e4544c4abc.jpeg "I found a Bug! SQ Firmware 1.4.4.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF91BGRutQ8)

When changing a from a scene where on a channel 48V is off to a scene where 48V on that same channel is on, the gain is peaking shortly a cause a short feedback.

Cheers,  
Andre´

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**Author:** ![steffenromeiss](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/steffenromeiss/32/2684_2.png) [@steffenromeiss](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/steffenromeiss)\
**Post date:** [20 February 2020 17:58 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/2 "2020-02-20T17:58:26Z")

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if you switch the phantom power on it always peaks a moment

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**Author:** ![williamadams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@williamadams](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/williamadams)\
**Post date:** [20 February 2020 18:15 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/3 "2020-02-20T18:15:54Z")

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@SteffenR

???

Our phantom power is always on for any mike that needs it.  
How would changing scenes turn phantom power off or on?

@Andre S  
Sounds like the scenes all need phantom on initially to avoid the problem.

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**Author:** ![steffenromeiss](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/steffenromeiss/32/2684_2.png) [@steffenromeiss](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/steffenromeiss)\
**Post date:** [21 February 2020 15:10 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/4 "2020-02-21T15:10:58Z")

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> How would changing scenes turn phantom power off or on?

if it’s saved to the scene like that, as mentioned above

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**Author:** ![williamadams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@williamadams](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/williamadams)\
**Post date:** [21 February 2020 15:40 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/5 "2020-02-21T15:40:10Z")

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@SteffenR

Ours does not do that.  
Why doesn’t having the phantom power on for each scene not turn it on or off when you change scenes?

I can see problems if the phantom power was off in some scenes and on in others.

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**Author:** ![pboeckel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/pboeckel/32/1783_2.png) [@pboeckel](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/pboeckel)\
**Post date:** [15 March 2020 19:22 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/6 "2020-03-15T19:22:25Z")

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I saw the same experience, and also thought it was related to version 1.4.4. However I realized that the scene which had more than 48V, did not have the good gain either. However I remembered that modifications were made on these scene, but WITHOUT STAGEBOX connected. And there indeed the scene is memorized WITHOUT 48V and a gain not in conformity. And so it will not be restored when we reconnect the STAGEBOX.

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**Author:** ![steffenromeiss](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/steffenromeiss/32/2684_2.png) [@steffenromeiss](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/steffenromeiss)\
**Post date:** [15 March 2020 20:54 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/7 "2020-03-15T20:54:18Z")

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if no stagebox is connected how should the system know the right gain?

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**Author:** ![pboeckel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/pboeckel/32/1783_2.png) [@pboeckel](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/pboeckel)\
**Post date:** [15 March 2020 22:32 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/8 "2020-03-15T22:32:56Z")

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Sure, but we could have imagined that the gain and the 48V command be memorized in the scene, stagebox connected or not.

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**Author:** ![Keith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/keith/32/2852_2.png) [@Keith](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/Keith)\
**Post date:** [16 March 2020 09:37 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/9 "2020-03-16T09:37:39Z")

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Hi @PBo67,

Preamp control (48V, PAD and Gain) are remote controls for the analogue preamp (pre-AD-conversion).  
These are not a part of channel processing, and belong to each socket, rather than each channel.  
Therefore, you would need to have the expander connected to set these - you couldn’t for example switch an input source to local, set the gain and then switch the source to an expander and have the same gain.

A scene **will** store all preamp settings, but again, the setting is socket based.  
In fact, there are up to 33+128+128=289 preamp settings for an SQ-7!

Thanks,  
Keith.

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**Author:** ![pboeckel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/pboeckel/32/1783_2.png) [@pboeckel](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/pboeckel)\
**Post date:** [16 March 2020 16:45 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/bug-in-1-4-4-when-changing-scenes/9454/10 "2020-03-16T16:45:15Z")

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Hi Keith,

I don’t really understand this story of an expender !  
moreover, unfortunately, there is NO expander on the SQ.  
On other consoles, analog gain is one of the parameters memorized in the scene WITHOUT stagebox connected.
