Yes, also a big PLUS from me… it would be great to have this in SQ aswell!!!
I use it on a CQ 18 and it works well!
And as I realized, that the new QU-Series has it built in, I already thought about downsizing the mixer from SQ to QU again… crazy, isn´t it? So please A&H, give us an update within the SQ to work with the feedback assistant.
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I would like to bring this up with this reply… I would be more than pleased to have this feedback assistant feature on the SQ´s aswell…
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+1 feedback assistant
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Agree, this just seems wrong that the higher end board is missing this feature. Come on A&H.
Actually I feel the higher end mixers should not have it.
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I don’t really understand your point, because you’d never have to use such a feature.
Would it diminish the level of the SQ or its little more professional users in your opinion?
Personally, I also don’t necessarily need such an automatic feature, but I think the option to could use narrowband notch filters when needed would be quite useful.
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Personally I feel that automatic feedback systems in today’s current environment are simply a crutch for inexperienced people. The actual systems are just as likely to cause more problem than they solve. Certainly an experienced audio engineer can get better, more reliable results “manually” in nearly the same time it takes to use the automatic feedback detection systems.
This is why you don’t see these features on “higher end” consoles IMHO. It should be a tool that is actually used less and less as engineers get more experienced. In fact, just the fact that it is available on a console will likely cause people to rely on it instead of learning how to ring out a PA properly which is a much better skill to have and use!
Now with the rapidly changing world of AI, we may see an automatic feedback detection system that actually works as advertised. However the current models tend to cut the loudest frequency whether it is desired or not. This is why the CQ forum has a lot of posts from people complaining about the audio quality of the device, only to find out that the problem was self inflicted due to the feedback detection system running wild.
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I was generally very surprised by how many inexperienced people are here in this forum.
It used to be a real profession, one that required years of learning and studying.
Today, anyone can do it or does it on the side, or volunteers are forced to do it.
Training, theory, practice - all yesterday’s news.
But I digress.
But to be able to do it manually, notch filters, which aren’t currently available on the SQ, would be a much more suitable tool than a PEQ or a GEQ.
Therefore, I wouldn’t consider the addition of such filters unprofessional or only for beginners, but, as I’ve already written, useful.
Of course, one could now start a new feature suggestion and request notch filters, but without the automatic feature, please.
But, to be honest, I would consider that a bit silly if the request is already for an automatic feature that is already known from other systems.
Of course, anyone who doesn’t need it should be able to turn it off, as should generally be the case with all automatic features.
Hey there, I play music since almost 30 years now, have lots of experience in mixing and playing… but if you play in a band, sing, play guitar, mix the lights, mix the mixer (at the stage, not at FOH), all at once, I am thankful for every tool, that makes this easier… I think of wedding bands or acoustic bands which have no FOH mixing guy… there are lots of such bands in our area and therefore the FBA is a quite helpful tool… just my two cents…
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well, get a CQ then. apearantly.
no amount of feedbackkillerassistantsuperduperbettermakers will replace knowledge of physics, you just start to make things lower in volume at some point.
if it feeds back, you have either set up your mics wrong, your speakers wrong, or you are simply too loud.
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I have a CQ18T aswell… and I know all the things you wrote… but if you are in a hurry, why not have this nice feature in a SQ aswell? It´s just a wish…
because it’s not a nice feature but a road to hell.
every second more spent on placing the mics/speakers correctly is spent better, imho.
30mins~ changeover at festivals is not that much time, but a feedbackassistent will not save your show.
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Especially if it were possible to use it as an insert on each input.
the first thing I do on a CQ is turn OFF the feedback assistant. 
I use the SQ5 live, and CQ in the bandroom. I simply never have feedback issues…even in extremely loud bandrooms or live. just GEQ it.
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an expander (ratio) on the gate would be nice… even a 01V96 can do it…
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I have 30 years experience with live PA and as a mixing and mastering engineer. I love the GEQ flip function and use it often…..when I have free hands. However sometimes the moment I find I need a notch on the GEQ is the very same moment I’m in the middle of singing a song, with a guitar in my hands. I don’t think this is an experience thing - it’s a use case for me and I would personally be delighted to see this in a firmware update
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Would love to have this feature with me on my sq!
And in a “perfect world” we would experience that level of accurate automation. However the feedback assistant systems available today simply aren’t that reliable/accurate. If you leave the system in “active mode” during an event without someone “baby sitting” it, it is going to cut more frequencies that are desired than it is going to cut frequencies that are feeding back. In other words, the system will slowly butcher the audio quality of your show because it ends up cutting frequencies it perceives as feedback, but actually aren’t.
I’ll restate my comment that we might eventually get to the point where feedback suppression systems CAN be used reliably in “active mode” during an event (without being baby sat). This is a problem that AI can likely help with and I think eventually we will have AI models that will be able to do this effectively. But we aren’t there today (as far as I know). There certainly aren’t any “console based” solutions that are this reliable today.
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I disagree with that completely. You turn your system up or monitors and the FBA finds frequencies. There’s a live feature that with then retract nodes automatically. I have a CQ20. It works just fine and does exactly what it’s supposed to faster than what you can do with the GEQ. And obviously I’m not saying that the GEQ isn’t a viable situation, it’s the standard. However the FBA tool is remarkably useful and fast.
For instance, I take my CQ to a new practice space an do a quick setup where I don’t have an hour or more to get everything just perfect. Set up speakers and mics to be used, turn on FBA, raise volume to where feedback starts, fixed filters and within 60 seconds I have that feedback filtered out for a great starting point to work with. Detection off and practice goes on without dicking around with anything more. And even if you get more/different feedback while all the bodies are in the room, detection on, finds frequency and deal from there.
Really hoping they are working on adding this feature to the SQ. Having a hard time figuring out why it’s taken this long still.
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This would be amazing for the SQ and not just for the QU and CQ