Flashing LED on mix select

It would be great for the mix select buttons to flash when selected so to remind the operator that they are editing a mix rather than the LR mix

This is not bad idea.

+1

1 Like

This would be GREAT, I could have used that the other day on a show…

1 Like

We find the majority of errors has to do with a mix option being selected on a layer and forgotten. This could be a “Clear Mix Selection” Sofkey assignment- where the softkey will flash while the mix is selected and depressing the button would clear like the PAFL “Clear”. A more extreme option may be a blue “ring” around the screens to denote an active mix selection.

Yes, good idea. Anything flashing to indicate ‘mix mode’ would be great. Flashing integrated LED illumination for the overworked tired touring engineer as an option would be helpful.

1 Like

guys, the clear mix button would be a redundant button since the Main Mix Key is a clear… :wink:

1 Like

+1 on the flashing led

1 Like

+1 on the flashing led

1 Like

What if the scribble strips inverted?

1 Like
What if the scribble strips inverted?

I like that idea.

1 Like

please add some option how the operator can see that the desk is set to another mix than LR.

Maybe in the setup to choose between
-Channel Displays flashing
-Channel Displays invert
-Warning in the main display
-Flashing / Glowing of the top LED bar

  • other ideas

Working with lay people like in our church need such options

1 Like

are you really serious?
You complain about a light that is not flashing?
if you select a mix, the corresponding button lights blue
and since the SQ has fixed buttons there is no need for flashing or other gimmicks

to make things blink will not save from ignoring it

The only proper solution would be that all LEDs, which are now static on, are flashing fast (150-200ms frequency), the main display changes to a more red style and also starts to blink. Probably a high pitch tone on the head phone should also be provided. For newer build models a shaker should be implemented so that the whole console can rumble during the phase where not the main mix is selected.
And even then some operator will fail, because they do not have the right skills and training.

:smiley:

@Mfk0815

Shucks - V1.5 does include a ‘currently selected mix’ tab on-screen, but reading through your ideas here, I fear we may have fallen short…

1 Like

@KeithJ A&H

you all are doing a fantastic job with your kit.
perfection is not possible.

consider hiring a UI engineer to work with the other specialties.
We had then on jobs I worked with at NASA. although what they ‘required’ tended to be overkill;
so you also need a good SYSTEMS Engineer to find the best overall solution.

I think this is one of the rare Cases where the signal mut not be a static one.

Blinking or flashing is no good Idea for most normal display Options because it automatically gains attention immediately - just try it out with some Websites - no matter what else is on them, if there is any animated part that absolutely ties your mention at once. That is btw the reason why i never would allow animated commercial banners on my Website - I want to gain my users Atention myself and not hand it over to third parties :wink:

So, for most things it is not a good idea to blink, flash or animate because there is no need to get attention.

The absolute single case Blinking, Flashing or animating is a valid and legitimate display method on a good user interface is a Warning. Nothing else.

And that is exactly what we have here: a Warning to the User that the console is not in the intuitive suggested basic Mode of Operation.

So: yes, please blink. As with Mute groups on the Mute buttons (which is also a kind of warning message). Blinking with the LCD Stripes on all Strips that are not in “normal” Operation would be a good Option for that.

The absolute Minimum would be to change the LED of the Select Button to the LCD Color of the Bus Master.

I am afraid that A blinking LED is not enough for some users. Maybe the touch screen should change the color scheme to a bright red one and starts to use a pulsating dimmer to signal that user that the current fader mode is not the main mode. :wink:

it would at least annoy the musicians that walk by monitor world if the console is constantly blinking :smiley:

Well for those Users A&H should offer a Hardware addon containing some Drone that brings up a really big sign right in Front of the Desk…

To get serious again:

In General: “Some Users are too dumb” most of the time is nothing more than a widespread lame Excusion of bad or unmotivated (not only user interface) developers. Not every time, but most of.

So if you say such things, you should try to reflect about your goals.

Do you want to feel good by demonstrating the dumbness of some Users / feel yourself as a “Pro” that is better than all those Amateurs out there? Then go on. You are on the right way.

Or do you want a User Interface that makes work as easy and fast as possible?

What might (more of) your customers want to pay for?

For the concrete Problem “User might work accidentally in wrong Mix Layer” that means:

A single LED is indeed a way too weak signal to get recognized intuitively in that case. Even when it is flashing. That is because the User may be highly focused on changing something special. So the Signalling has to be penetrant enough to gain attention over that for telling he might be in the wrong Mix.

Before we had Channel LCD Stripes, there was a similar Problem with Custom Fader Layers on digital Consoles. It was an important Part of the working solutions not only to place text on them but also to set Background Colors which will change when you switch to another Layer - only that makes the recognition really work for most People. You may just try it out by setting all your LCD Colors to Black or White.

Changing Color of the LED in the Select Buttons may be a good compromise (if that is a RGB LED, dunno). If that disturbs in some use cases, it can be made configurable. If that is impossible because those LEDs are fixed Color ones, Blinking Select LEDs or changing LCD Text Foreground Color might be an Option but you have to beware about Contrast to keep it readable. Maybe something like black = main, dark blue = Group, dark green = Aux, dark red = FX. And for colour-handicapped People it would be good to have that configurable.