In-Ear Station Settings Changing

I’m a bit confused on how the in-ear monitor stations receive information from the desk. We have the personal monitors and distribution hub and I’ve noticed that when scenes are loaded, the key-mappings on the monitors are changing. Actually, I’m not certain that it’s a result of the scenes being changed, but that’s the only thing that’s changing on the desk.

For instance, our drum group on most of the in-ear stations has all of the drum’s input channels added, but when I switch scenes, two of the channels are removed from the group. When I switch back to the previous scene, the removal sticks and they aren’t added back.

Can someone shed light on what’s happening? Thanks.

Hi Arretx,

If you block Output Patch in the Global Filter, does is resolve the issue?

Go to Scenes > Global Filter and change Output Patch so that it says Block.

Thanks!

Alex

Haven’t tested it yet, but would I want to Block ALL output patch, or just the names?

I’ve tested it now and it’s not making a difference. The names are being transmitted to the ME-U as I can see them sync on the web interface and on the ME-1’s but what’s happening is that two of the channels that were previously in a group of 6X on the ME-1 have been removed and the group has been reduced to 4X. I can’t seem to prevent this from happening.

There doesn’t seem to be anything different about the channels on the QU-32. We have 1-5 set as Drum inputs with cannel 13 as the overheads, so 6 total inputs grouped on the ME-1. What could be causing this?

Hi Arretx,

Could you also check the same for the scene filter?

If you’re still have trouble, please start a ticket at support.allen-heath.com and we will look into this further with you.

Thanks!

Alex

The Scene filter is where I started before using the global filter. I have a hunch…

One scene has 6 channels that are unlinked. 1,2,3,4,5 and 13.

The other scene renames channels 1-5 and creates a linked pair between 1/2 and 3/4 with 5 being unlinked.

I think the linked channel of each pair gets removed from the group because it’s linked. Seems like a bug, unless it’s by design.

Hi Arretx,

Could you forward your show file in a ticket at support.allen-heath.com please?

We will try to recreate the behaviour.

Thanks!

Alex

Should be simple to re-create. Just create two scenes. One with channel strip 1 and 2 unlinked and one with them linked. On the ME-1, group channels 1 & 2.

When you switch to the scene with the linked channels, the 2nd channel will be removed from the group on the ME-1.

Logically, I think this makes sense, since I wouldn’t need two independent channels on the ME-1 to be grouped when I could simply have one that’s receiving audio from both 1&2.

The only thing it does is create an organizational problem for the musician.

What I haven’t tried yet is re-booting the ME-U after the scene is switched to see if it will bring back the groupings. Also, recalling the configuration for the user on the ME-1 seems to fix the problem as well.

Hi Arretx,

When you link channel 1 & 2 on the mixer, these are seen as ONE stereo channel at the ME-1 end. Therefore as you say, this is expected behaviour. Channel 2 is removed from the group because there is no longer a channel 2. It becomes the right side of stereo Channel 1. With a single level control as you would expect for a stereo channel.

Yes, that’s exactly what I discovered.

It’s a small thing so I don’t think we have to worry about it.