– FX sends usable with external effects, which would free up the first 4 fx slots for different stuff.
sorry to pick this out… this makes no sense to me
the ressources for this would be better used on different tasks
you can send a mix to an external FX already and bring it back in with the input channels
I can’t see no advantage to mimic the FX rack for external FX
the only thing I could imagine is to get channels with no dynamics to save computation power for other tasks
but will that make big difference?
If 12 mixes 4 FX sends and 48 inputs are not enough then you own the wrong product
Dual Mono FX
this is a completely different beast
the handling for inserted FX in all A&H desks is suboptimal (except the Dyn8)
there is much room for improvement even on the dLive
Ever used a transient controller on Toms?
It takes always extra attention to make sure to use the right slot, not very intuitive
to avoid this confusion it is not possible to have dual mono FX at the moment on the SQ
but I’m sure the guys work on a solution
and regarding the insert B
I think there are more important things to do… like dual mono FX and proper insert handling inside the desk
Engineers that walk to an SQ desk, don’t know what to expect. Does this specific desk have a De-esser or not?, does it have Compressor-emulations or not?, where is that BBD FX, that I used the last time I mixed on an SQ?, etc. etc. In my opinion this makes their product worse. If I would have designed the console, I would have priced it 200.- dollars higher, and included the DEEP plugins in every console. But that’s not my decision to make, just my opinion to voice. You can call this “that’s how the real world works”, I call it a bad business decision and lot of other companies agree with my opinion, as they did not go for the add-on business-model.
that could be true for the music scenario…
I know a company that needs 20 or 30 small format mixers for conferences
and they don’t need any extra plugins they are good with the desk alone
they would save a lot of money
the SQ could replace more expensive desks with ease and still compete with cheaper ones
and I doubt that the extra $200 would be enough
try to get the same functionality with Waves plugins… oh this adds latency…
I think there’s already another thread on that topic, so our discussion is not ideally placed here, but nevertheless:
I agree on the Dual Mono FX problem. It’s also not very well implemented on other consoles like X32 or yamaha’s. Especially on my QL1 I’m so often confused which channel’s insert I’m actually editing. But you get used to it and the benefits far outweigh those concerns. But yeah, an elegant solution would be great for sure.
concerning the first request: you said “the resources for this would be better used on different tasks”. You mean the resources to implement this? Seems to me a rather easy thing to implement, is it not? Just allow the FX sends to be routed to an output. Would just be great to use your preferred external FX (hardware, or Waves Rack, or whatever) with the dedicated FX sends, instead of using up 4 additional mixes and not have the FX sends in use for anything. As a bonus, you get to use the 4 FX slots for different stuff. One workaround could also be, to just add a mixknob to the FX (I think they might already have this, I forgot). This way you could run through the internal FX, but set them totally dry and send the return out to your external FX. Then return the external FX on a standard channel. Would work, but then you use the processing of 4 FX slots for basically nothing.
it may not need much to do but it is still competing against all the other things that could be done and need to be done
you assume that it would be easy. depends how good/badly AH did it the first time.
sometimes making other things easier initially makes changes like this harder now.
and they also have to way the demand&benefit of that change for a few/more? people, vs other things users want and what marketing says would help them sell more product so they can stay in business.
you are still confused as can be about how the real world works
ever buy a car?
see all the fancy features they could have put in the cheapest model but did not
just to get folks to buy more expensive cars to get those features
Did you just really say that!!!
I guess you forgot about all of your post complaining that your QU did not give you
all the “tools” you think you need to run sound in your church like “downward compression” and LUFS metering to name a few!
