I have a venue that is still on v2.00, s5000 at booth, dm48 on stage, 2x DX boxes (1 connected to surface and 1 connected to mixrack).
I have some analog gear inserted on a channel via the booth DX box and patched to a channel’s B insert point.
I went into the IO menu and changed the input socket gain to 0db to properly adjust the return signal that comes in +4 line level. This may be a different issue, but why the insert window doesn’t change the socket gain to 0db, seems like its own bug.
Here is my problem: We have 1 scene that does nothing but adjust LPF/LPF on a stereo channel. Everything else is blocked in the scene filter menu. But when I recall the scene, it resets the DX sockets back to 27db. Is this a bug or outside of the recall filter scope?
I can rebuild the scene-in-question, but it would be nice to know if DX preamps cannot be filter-safed.
recheck your recall filters and or global filters. If you add a device after you saved a scene and set up recall filters, this “new” device is not automatically blocked but all parameters for that new device are allowed.
The recall filters look correct, but you must be right. Hardware was added after the scene was originally created. Frustrating that the filters do not automatically apply to all new hardware added to the system.
I wouldt try to make a copy of the scene then block all then try it out.
And I too think that this behaviour can be dangerous. I once had lots of feedback because a dx168 that was added later did recall the preamp gains to 27dB at scene change.
The reason that it is that way they will tell us that the system can not know what kind of device is going to be added to a certain extension port and thus the filters cannot be set and that it can be equally dangerous the other way around. So yeah…in the end I think we have to check the recall filters everytime we add new devices.
Even if they had some sort of incredible AI built in, I certainly do not want “the system” deciding to make changes to scenes and/or recall filters without my knowledge/input. That is a recipe for disaster IMHO and would create a LOT more problems than it solves.
I would understand if it was applying a scene filter change to a new device that is added to the system. Changing socket gain, polarity, 48v would be problematic… but reseting the socket to factory default when I have it filter-blocked seems like a bad idea in every scenario. Maybe I am missing the use case, but filter-block should apply to any IO device added to the system.
Then how about a prompt when the scene’s hardware doesn’t match the physical hardware?
I’ve nearly stopped using scenes because keeping the filtering straight is such a freakin’ pain. Reconfigure the busses? The filtering is wrong. Make a pair of mono channels stereo? The filtering is wrong. Now you’re telling me the filtering will be wrong if I add a DX unit even if the channel filtering is setup correctly?
Whatever “system” A&H uses to determine the default value for filtering stuff, it’s had a 100% miss rate for me.