I am simply trying to listen to all channels by selecting main out for the headphones. I get nothing. If I select Listen, select a channel and tick headphones, that works. (Another issue for later, no multiselect in that mode WT…).
Then I read that the headphones are tied with main volume slider even though headphones have their own control. Yet another strange choice.
But first things first, why might I have no audio when selecting the headphones for Main out listening?
Probably user error, or at least I hope so. But so far I have come across some oddball choices with this thing in my short ownership of it.
I am also using the DCA workaround so my Sub out slider works in unison with the Main out. Another eyeroll. I hope this is not yet another backwards side effect that is preventing me from simply listening to all channels on my headphones without the thing playing through my PAs at the same time.
Really like this thing but too many obvious “should be” options are missing or require workarounds.
What’s up with not giving each device its own forum. We have to spend time filtering out threads that don’t even pertain to our particular device.
Can’t answer your technical questions, but with regard to searching the forum, click the Filter icon in the search bar to narrow your choices.
OK. Checked it out. I guess it could help but still shows other devices. More diving. Should still have separate device categories. Even looked in the TAGS section, still all over the place. Just as forum admins insist on users placing queries in proper subforums.
Just nice and normal (in my personal experience on forums) to go into a section and know that I am reading something that pertains to me and later into it to only find I have been reading about another device.
Sorry, it seems as though I am guilty of breaking protocol myself with so many subjects here.
Back to the matter at hand.
I cannot figure out what more I need to do to get audio out to JUST my headphones when set to Main and not Listen. Muting the Main/DCA sliders kills the headphones too. There has got to be a way to listen to my full audio set with just the headphones…through the HEADPHONE jack.
Never mind. After more research I have found that yet another workaround is necessary for yet another simple task.
Listen option-
Why only allow monitoring of ONE channel at a time?
Main Out option-
Why not at least have the option to disconnect the headphone volume from main slider? The headphones have their own volume knob. I can hear it all on my PAs anyway. Why even give a dedicated set of headphone jacks if to use them, in this ridiculously common way, you need to physically create an entirely new path instead of simply plugging into…THE HEADPHONE JACK ?! And their are even two of them! Yet more room for variations. As it is there are two of the same variations out of two headphone jacks.
I simply want to listen to my main mix without the PAs playing. That’s it. Who wouldn’t expect this?
I have to reroute everything or physically go to my PAs and turn them off when I want just headphones for the total sum of channels. More times than not this need is just momentary. Other times a longer duration.
Then the other workaround issue is for the Sub channel volume not working in unison with main volume unless you use a DCA option.
I truly love this mixer but these few simple things really ruin it for me. When I first got this mixer home and started figuring it out, I was super stoked but after finding out these things are for real and not user error, the disappointment started to run deep.
I would easily rate it a 5 out of 5… but as is it is now a 2 out of 5.
You actually haven’t stated which mixer you’re using.
There are categories listed to the left side of the comments.
You can assign a softkey to enable Listen function for the MainLR. At least in the app it is possible.
Both headphones can listen to the MainLR if necessary.
You got me excited for a minute there. And thanks for the effort but the same problem still exists. My main out still plays the PA speakers and if I mute the Main Out it mutes the headphones. This makes absolutely no sense to me.
To listen to headphones you MUST always listen to your speakers unless you run around and shut down your PAs. Even if you just need to momentarily do so. In what universe does this make sense? That should definitely be an option but being able to mute the PAs without muting the headphones is as common, totally expected, indispensable, necessary, and the right thing to do as is me changing my underwear every day.
Ok, gave in and used an aux set. Enabled all channels on it and plugged my headphones in there (after buying a splitter for stereo to my headphones). One less aux channel set now.
Instead of using ONE of the HEADPHONE out jacks. Which are stereo. Because…they are… HEADPHONE jacks!
Also lost TWO soft buttons to switch back and forth from my MAIN scene to my new HEADPHONE scene. Best method?
Getting the sarcasm? Cuzz I am laying it on thick. 
(Tommy Boy)
Maybe I am just dumb thinking I should be able to simply plug in my headphones and listen to just them if I like. Without jumping through hoops. Hell, a lot of audio devices automatically shut speakers off when headphones are plugged in. Right? Wonder why.
Would they have to do that on this or any other mixer? Maybe not. But since it is digital and not a total hardwired analog device we can easily have these options. I would figure default would shut off speakers and the options could go from there for different preferred headphone modes.
But hey, at least its working. Although at a cost. Along with my other workaround with the Sub Out following my Main on one slider.
So, I am happy…ish. For the moment. Really do love this thing and I see nothing else like it so far. I buy a lot of gear and some really unique ones that do some really cool things like no other but I don’t have one that really nailed it all the way around yet. My wants are not usually very technical.
I really appreciate getting away from scratchy sliders and a huge board. They did a great job but damn…maybe keep tweaking it to make it as good as it can be for what it is. Some missing basics leave some of us scratching our heads a bit. Will be watching the updates…patiently. Kind of.
If you want Listen independent from the MainLR level, an Aux pair (Post Comp Post Fader) is, of course, always a good choice.
But why the hassle of using a “splitter”?
Couldn’t you simply listen this Aux pair also via Listen - even also with a programmed softkey?
A big advantage of this solution is not only the independent listening you desire from the MainLR level, but also the ability to adjust the mix level additional to the headphone volume using the Aux master.
And this allows for different levels between listens of a single channel and listens of your mix.
Oww. My head hurts. I been going through so much trial and error for hours to get my desired effect. Which I pretty much finally have now. ( Uttering profanities I didn’t even know I knew all the while)
But noooo, you gotta come in here and give me options ! Let my head cool off a bit and I will try and soak in what you are laying down.
Thanks. I will check it out a bit later.
Sorry, but whenever I’ve suggested this to someone before, there were usually never two Auxes free - and even if the console would had more than six. )
Anyway, get well soon after the shock!
The more upmarket A&H ranges do allow you to select PAFL to be PRE FADE on outputs, but not the CQ range.
I use all up to and including Avantis
Just hope enough people think this function to be worth while, and vote for it, then it will most probably get included at some major update.
I do occasionally use pre fade listen on outputs when creating a new band setup, but normally run quite happily with outputs set to post fade listen, can see your point.
Configura tu mixer como mixer principal, seguramente esta como mixer de monitores
