Hi Guys,
Recorded my band last night.
Just starting mixing tonight, and one track is blank - the lead vocals!
All files are the same length (1.24GB) but the lead vocal track is just empty.
I know vocals were at front of house.
Is there something I’ve done in the setup - maybe muted one track so it doesn’t record?
I haven’t got my desk with me so can’t have a play.
Any suggestions welcomed.
Used the same setup a couple of months ago with no problems.
Cheers
Martin
Was it patched differently?
Dollars to donuts you’re recording to a computer/DAW and that track was not armed on the machine.
…OR your USB output patch for that particular channel had “x” assigned as the source.
IOW…it was effectively sending nothing while still functioning in the FOH live mix.
Not to hijack the thread but coincidentally the exact same thing happened to me last night. This time it is the bass that’s missing.
Also available at FOH and monitors but nothing recorded, not even the hiss you usually get with blank channels.
Recording was done to the Qdrive (Sandisk extreme pro 128 Gb). Direct out source was set to Post preamp, Follow fader off and Follow mute off. USB audio was patched 4 to 4.
All 10 other recorded channels are fine.
I’m on a Qu-SB btw.
Thoughts ?
Giga
I have to assume human error - and that the USB Output patching has been futzed somehow.
If someone can assure me that that isn’t the case then it’s worth looking into MUCH harder…
Well, I can’t speak for Martin of course but in my case I’m 100% certain the settings were ok unfortunately…
Giga
THe forum has now let me post in this thread!
I was recording to an hdd plugged into the desk, should have said that in the original post.
(The hdd is defintely one from the approved list, I’ve used it several times with no problems)
Is it possible to mask/mute channels? I assumed all channels that are in use get recorded.
Maybe it is a routing problem, but not something I have deliberately changed since I last recorded using the same scene back in august.
Still haven’t been able to get to my QU16 to have a play, I’ll have it at home tuesday night.
Any suggestions where I can look to see if I’ve managed to mess up the routing to QuDrive?
Cheers
Martin
There is a USB output routing page where the channels to be recorded are selected.
Don’t know if it’s scene specific.
@ MartinW : do you happen to remember whether or not your lead-vox channel was muted at the time of starting the recording ?
For my issue, that’s the only thing that comes to my mind. As we were at a small pub the FOH tech had muted the bass in the PA when I started the recording.
We used 11 channels so in prepping the system I also muted (recording)channels 12 thru 18 and they are also empty. (not entirely true btw as I had 17 + 18 linked to ST1. Lots of hiss and a 1 to 1,5 sec delayed crosstalkmix of the mains there).
The above may lead to the conclusion that “muted at the time of the start of the recordingsession” channels simply will not record anything…
Giga
i watched the video last night that showed the routing page for QDrive. I’ll check tonight if everything is correct in there.
it’s possible that the lead vocals were muted when I started the recording, but I normally just mute foh.
Would be worth testing with a channel muted when recording starts then unmuting to see if it remains muted in the recording.
Regardless of whether channels are muted or not ,they still record I have found.
Damn, that’s good and bad news in one sentence then…
Thanks anyway !
Giga
Had a look at my desk last night.
The routing under QDrive Multitrack was all mapped correctly.
I didn’t have the USB drive connected so all buttons were non-functional.
I’ll try with the drive connected tonight to see if that changes the routing - I’m not expecting it to.
If that looks ok I think I’ll raise a query with support.
Cheers
Martin
Just realised that I commonly have one track muted at the start of recordings, 'cos in one band the keyboard player also does a second guitar, and that amp has some hiss on it when not playing.
Not had an issue with that track not recording…
Yep, I’ve just tested that too. In fact, I’ve tried to corrupt the recording in all possible manners but as long as the direct outs are set to post preamp and the follow mute and follow fader are off it keeps recording no matter what. Which still doesn’t explain why my basstrack was/is missing.
Is contacting A&H support the next logical step ?
Giga
Yes, but I doubt you’ll get much luck unless you can characterise what went on.
Ok, so I did another gig with the Qu-SB last night and without changing anything to the recording setup it recorded 2 one hour sets of 11 tracks without any problem.
I reported the problem to A&H and they seem to be baffled also. It’s said to be forwarded to the softwareteam so I hope I’ll hear back some time soon.
Giga