Please, any hope that we can save layers with scenes?

I wouldn’t be so fatalistic. Its already been mentioned on many of the more prominent YouTube live gear channels as a reason they would pass on the SQ Rack

The SQ Rack was specifically released to fill a ‘hole’ in the market that A&H were not in. I assume there is a lot of potential money in this market sector.

I was in an A&H presentation at the time of the release, so we had a good chat about it after the presentation over a beer.

The right tool for the job. In most cases this may not be the SQ Rack. In others, it may be.

Dave

And one of those holes is certainly the case of X32 racks in IEM racks, where the lack of saving layers with scenes makes it DOA. Another is small clubs with multiple acts a night, again where the X32 rack comfortably sits and again a case where not being able to save layers with scenes precludes its comfortable use. In what case is not being able to save layers with scens an advantage?

Excuse us, but to say that the layers get not saved with scenes is just not true.

You need to point out that the MixPad app doesn’t save it’s custom layers within the desks scenes.
The desk layers get stored.
That works totally fine.

Nobody was saying that it is an advantage to not save layers.

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Pedant noted

Yes, since I’ve repeatedly said this is about the Sq Mixpad app and in this particular context of the last few posts we’ve been talking about the sq rack which can really only realistically be run from the app it is functionally equivalent.

Everything. Some of us don’t ‘get’ a lot of modern mixers. It’s all Greek. Let’s just leave it at that.

So, after reading through this rough discussion, to me this seems to boil down to:

A&H, please create a function enabling that the custom layers from the MixPad app can be synced to the desk’s layers. (Vice versa is possible, automatically or manually.)

I can see why this may be a handy thing to have, but I wouldn’t want to be that FOH guy that just got ruined his layers by an inexperienced somebody doing monitors on an iPad. (Might seem ridiculous, but on budget jobs, this is what I encounter quite often.) So, if that function should ever arrive, there must be some kind of switch preventing it that can only be operated at the desk.

Needless to say, the SQ Rack has strip assign on the desk, too.

Mixing more than a handful of channels only via tablet, no matter with what kind of mixer, is not what “festival” sounds like to me. Oh, I experienced being forced to mix 30-channel acts using SQ MixPad, I can’t imagine anybody loving to do this.

Seem alike there’s a textbook false dichotomy fallacy going on here. It’s not one or the other. This is easily handleable as an option.

I will be happy to write the software for this if needed.

Nobody is holding a gun to anyone’s head to be forced to use this feature

If you don’t like it, don’t enable it.

It’s insane how so often software comes down to “I do t need it so you can’t have it”.

Glad to have been part of so many products that ignore that nonsense.

Maybe I’ll get verbally beated now because I misunderstood the issue or because the following has already been suggested and rejected, but at least I can’t recognize it in this form here in this topic - English isn’t my native language - so:

Of course, you can also save layers in scenes in MixPad and then use them in the SQ.
It just doesn’t work (at least not yet, due to legitimate security concerns) if you’re connected to the console online.
However, you can use the Offline Mode, where you can pull the console state (show) into your MixPad using “Pull Show” and then edit it as you wish – including layers A-F, which you can also save as scenes.
Once you’re done with everything, push this show back to the console using “Push Show.”
You must confirm the pull and push actions (Sync) on the SQ.

If you’re using MixPad on a PC, you can also save your modified show there in offline mode and then load it directly into the SQ using a USB stick.

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