I’ve been an iLive owner since the early days but am also lucky enough to get to use many other systems aswell.
The iLive has got probably the best UI on a digital console, but one thing I have realised is how much better a multi layer console is to work on if it incorporates pop groups/fader spill(ala midas, digidesign).
It would be a big, big plus to be able to hit select on a vca master and have the members of that group “populate” the strips on the top layer.
A&H, is there the possibility of including this in a firmware update?
It would be especially useful for bigger shows. It seems the general consensus is, “once you’ve used a desk with pop groups, you don’t want to go back to a desk without them”
Does the rest of the iLive community see the value in this?
Would this be considered if enough of us are for the idea?
Yes, this can be done by saving scenes only containing the strip layout.
However this is only practical if there is plety of time to set up the console before the show and it is also time consuming and messy to change the members in a group. It works, but is really only a workaround and not at all an elegant solution,not something a visiting engineer could get his head around at a show.
I think the solution is much simpler. An “on/off” toggle for the option in the preferences page, and if it is set to “on”, the strips “populate” when the vca select button is pressed.
I agree you could do it in a scene BUT, if it was done dynamically when you added or removed something from a DCA, then that would save a lot of fiddling around editing scenes and saving them.
Yes would be good - but where would the channels populate to? From the far left channel strip? Remember there are multiple surface models with differing fader layouts to contend with so it could be tricky. Perhaps they could appear just to the left hand fader bank and layers only on all models?
Cheers
Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72/Mixpad,Tweak,
Dual M-Dante/DVS, 17"MBP/Logic 9/Custom Mackie Control
I’ve been an iLive owner since the early days but am also lucky enough to get to use many other systems aswell.
The iLive has got probably the best UI on a digital console, but one thing I have realised is how much better a multi layer console is to work on if it incorporates pop groups/fader spill(ala midas, digidesign).
It would be a big, big plus to be able to hit select on a vca master and have the members of that group “populate” the strips on the top layer.
A&H, is there the possibility of including this in a firmware update?
It would be especially useful for bigger shows. It seems the general consensus is, “once you’ve used a desk with pop groups, you don’t want to go back to a desk without them”
Does the rest of the iLive community see the value in this?
Would this be considered if enough of us are for the idea?
Cheers,
Darren
Hi Darren,
As you know, I have an iLive (which I love) and a Midas …. and you are absolutely correct, once you have used POP or Spill groups it’s hard to go back.
Your suggestion of using the Select Button (subject to a preference page setting) for the DCAs would be great.
The Midas does POP VACs, POP Groups and also has an area B assignment as well as a compressed (POP) flip for monitors. A POP/SPILL DCA would only give you one of the Midas functions but it would still be extremely useful especially on the iLive 80 and GLD.
@Martinijn – yes you can do that, and it’s a handy function, but compared to the Midas it’s almost useless.
Yes would be good - but where would the channels populate to? From the far left channel strip? Remember there are multiple surface models with differing fader layouts to contend with so it could be tricky. Perhaps they could appear just to the left hand fader bank and layers only on all models?
Cheers
Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72/Mixpad,Tweak,
Dual M-Dante/DVS, 17"MBP/Logic 9/Custom Mackie Control
The far left fader bank, or select it as part of the preference settings. Whatever works would be fine by me.