QU SB Newbie. Help with midi & automation

Qu Qu DAW Integration
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Hi all! I recently bought a QU SB and I would like to know the following if you could please answer these:

  • Are scenes stored on the iPad app only, or are they stored in the mixer itself?
  • Is automation via Midi over USB possible, hardwired to a Mac, without using an ipad?
  • If the above can be done, then: is it possible to record such automation instead of having to program all the midi messages in the DAW (I’m using Ableton)?

Thanks!

Agus

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Scenes are not stored in the iPad, only in the desk, though you can move them from there to a USB pen drive if you want.

I think the answers to your other questions are yes, but I don’t use the QU with a DAW, so better if somebody who does comes along!

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I was thinking of setting up a number of scenes, and switch between them via midi over usb with Ableton Live. is it that bad an idea?

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It’s possible using NRPN calls - I’ve made an example using CTRLR as described in this thread.

https://community.allen-heath.com/forums/topic/fader-recall-from-logic

Attached are a screenshot and the example.

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Qu-Pad.panel_-1.zip (42.2 KB)

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isn’t it possible to change scenes using Program Change messages?
what is NRPN?

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in the midi protocol manual> “Qu uses Bank Select and Program Change messages for Scene recall. Only Bank 1 is used.”
So, can I set up a number of scenes with the iPad, and then directly change between those scenes using normal program changes?
What do I need to set NRPN for?

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Take a look at the screendump; you’re able to control pretty much everything using NRPN. I’ve built my own control surface to have total recal from inside Logic Pro. The mix is stored within the project.

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Is it me or are there no contributors who will actually give an example of an external midi request to change a scene? I’m a new person to all this, and frankly I’m at a loss as to the lack of real applied info on this topic. The doc’s are detailed and confusing.

Would anyone please direct me to a quick solution?

External Program: OnSong → Send Midi “Recall Scene” → QU-16 (w/latest firmware)