hi
i am a new one here.
hope do some friends.
i am from Portugal.
i need if some one out there can help me in one mixer i buy from allen heath.
the mixer is qu32.
i need know if is possível have more mixes outputs than the 7 the mixer have from factory?
Hi Jorge
You have the groups & matrix on the 32, but “real” mixes is limited to the 4 mono & 3 stereo.
i try that but there is a prob.
i can break the sinal of L&R.
i need another solution.
is possibel or no?
While your English is much better than my Portuguese, I don’t quite understand what you mean by “I can break the of L&R”.
Can you explain what you want to do another way?
hummmm…
1º, thanks for your hellp.
i mean,when i send sinal of any chanel to groups,at same time send sinal to L&r.this sinal of l&r i can break.
is that i mean.
what i want or need is a solution like mix outs, because i need more 4 ways to send sound to stage.
or i need in total 11 ways send sinal to stage.i have the 7 mix outs but need more 4.
i am afraid this is not possível.
or is possível?
I’m afraid that 11 “properly” separate mix output is beyond what a Qu can do by itself. You could look into adding some MEs to create other mixes I guess.
But I think you really need to move up to a GLD…
i think you are wrigth,i need go to gld
I have come across this whilst planning some bigger jobs.
The need for more than 7 mix sends.
off course there is L/R as another send which gives 8
It would be a great feature to have the groups switchable as extra sends. Page 30 in the manual 6.10
Unfortunately the faders ONLY MOVE TO THE FOH layer… unless I’m missing something?
So maybe I should check out the ME1 to get some more sends?
Is any one doing this?
look forward to any thoughts/comments
I love my Qu24 and would not want to part with it but Mackie’s new DL32R has 12 mono mix outputs plus L/R
all routable however you want.
Sorry, but Jorge is looking at buying a new mixer that can do what he needs,
the main difference is that the Mackie DL32R has no actual console,.
only iPad control… so it is not really comparable to a GLD.
dhak - we run into this issue with our GLD. Sometimes 20 mix outputs is not enough. We regularly use ME-1s to add additional stage mixes. Things to be aware of:
- You relinquish control of the ME-1 mix to either a performer OR your monitor engineer. There is no central control from the QU/GLD. Make sure you train the end-user and trust them to properly set levels (especially if the output feeds a floor wedge).
- ME-1s do not have EQ/compression control for individual channels (just global). To improve the sound of the ME-1 output (at least on a GLD), first assign the direct-outs to the monitor patch. Then go to individual channels and select where in the signal path you wish to pull the direct-out feed (post trim, post eq, post comp, etc.). I do not have access to a QU right now, so someone else will need to verify if you can do this.
Good luck!
Thanks Daniel
I have experimented a little with the ME-1s’ and into a powered wedge from the line out.
You are right … getting around the ME-1 as a new user was … difficult for myself. Let alone training some musician just before a show!
And the EQ for using as a floor wedge just wasn’t good enough.
I hadn’t tried using the ME-1 into a 31 band EQ located on a stage before the floor wedge…
That might do the trick to get a couple of more sends from the monitor desk (QU32)
I was just looking at that apparatus that DPdan mentioned.
Gosh would you want to monitor mix 32 channels walking around a large stage with a very loud band with that device? with 3 more large acts to follow in one night?
I’ll have to have a BIG think about all of this!
Thanks for your input Daniel.
I didn’t want to buy an iLive or a GLD for other reasons
I think we are at an era of change.
dave NZ
i my hedea this is a great failure from allen heath.
because there is on market another solutions from another brands,with more mix outs.
some of this mixers is more cheaper or around same price.
i think allen heath need think about this.
in my country perhaps allen heath can sell mutch Qu,dont mather if is qu16,qu24 or qu32,because of this prob. of mix outputs.
when on market there better solutions from concurrence like,soundcraft,midas,cheats like behringer and so many more…
Surely impossible without adding more DSP horsepower?
If you think those are better solutions for you, then by all means go ahead.
what you mean dsp horsepower?
This has probably been mentioned before but one way to use the stereo mixes as 2 mono is by using panning. Pan left for mix 5 and right for mix 6 for example. Yes you have some limitations, but it’s better than nothing. Maybe the reason why it’s not possible yet might be processing power. If you split a stereo mix, you now need an extra GEQ for example.
Hi
Yes thanks,for sure.
I call that my ‘A mix’
effectively giving ‘8 easy thinking sends’ for a monitor desk
I have searched the QU32 every way trying to get a couple of more sends.
I think one way is to use ME1s’ of which I experimented today with into a powered wedge.
You can set the QU32 to pre fader easily enough and just run with the default set up being 1 to 1 but this only gives you up to 16 in that mode of configuration.
If you could flip to another bank of another 16 channels that would be an easy fix.
AND the names from the QU update within a second to the ME1.
However the ME1 is just not designed to do that or to be that type of mixer.
If you have to train a misician on how to use an ME1 from scratch… man thats not where I want to be!
I’m frustrated as I if you look at the mixer the hardware has all of the features to be a 12 way (thinking mono) output including the subgroups.
‘The block diagram suggests this as well’ however the software dose not support this.
That may be in the future but I’m a minority user in the grand scale of marketing.
I think that to be able to turn the subgroups into mix outs (like mix sends) would put this desk at this present time ahead in the land of monitor mix desks at this price.
Maybe I will just use 2x QU32 side by side to get extra sends and use more wedges?
The analogue splinters I use are a 3 way split, 2 with transformers.
It would be nice to keep it all simple! however…
These problems get the brain thinking what else is out there and ways to easily get a work around.
Thanks for your suggestions.
I like my QU32
and after doing a couple of large outdoor events this week I have finally found the tone of the desk. Its different…(thats another subject)
I’m picking up another QU32 for FOH/Monitor scenario this week.
Thanks again!
dave NZ
It would be interesting to see if this is possible, even they still have to share EQ etc (although presumably the DSP is still being applied to each side independently…)
hi
what is ME1?
and where i find this?
hi
i ned put another question.
hope some one can help.
is possível work same time with one gld80 and one qu32 with same digital snake?