# Scene in Admin being changed by Standard users **URL:** \ **Category:** Qu General Discussions\ **Created:** [9 May 2016 15:37 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818 "2016-05-09T15:37:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gilbarry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8491ac/32.png) [@gilbarry](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/gilbarry)\ **Post date:** [9 May 2016 15:37 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818/1 "2016-05-09T15:37:51Z")
Hi Folks Just wondering did any of you experience this with Qu-24: I as admin block allocated Scenes 1-14 under Admin control (and it works as when I log on as Standard user I can only , and I have Scene 1 set up as the DEFAULT scene, with the settings I like, for instance I set up DCA’s on 2 faders in the Custom Layer so I can have all of the FOH speakers volume controlled from DCA 1 fader 24, all the Monitors (Mix 1-4) volume controlled from DCA2 fader 23. I saved this. But every so often when I go in to use this Scene 1 I find that a lot of the parameters have changed, e.g. the above DCA’s are not allocated on the Custom Layer and the PEQ settings are completely different on some faders than the way I set it… Just wondering is there any way a Standard User can effect Scenes 1-14 by accident ? ---
**Author:** ![NicB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/nicb/32/4389_2.png) [@NicB](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/NicB)\ **Post date:** [10 May 2016 07:26 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818/2 "2016-05-10T07:26:19Z")
Hi Gilly, Are the unwanted changes stored in Scene 1 when you recall it? Remember the Scene Range user setting doesn’t stop the Standard user from changing current settings (for example PEQ). Also worth noting that the User Scene (Scene 1 in your example) would only be auto recalled when the User changes i.e. when Standard logs in after Admin, not when Standard logs back in after power up. ---
**Author:** ![gilbarry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8491ac/32.png) [@gilbarry](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/gilbarry)\ **Post date:** [10 May 2016 10:39 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818/3 "2016-05-10T10:39:51Z")
Hi Nicola Yes the changes are in my default Scene 1 (which can only be accessed by Admin) after i power up. For example PEQ in certain channels are changed to totally different EQ settings than i would ever use. Sometimes on Sunday after i am on sound, logged in under Admin, there is a kids group on requiring a simple sound setup, so i log out of Admin, log back in as Standard user and open Scene 15, or some other scene from 15-100 - without powering desk down. But Scene 1 isn’t available to Standard users so i can’t figure how they can get in from this procedure? Btw what exactly do you mean by \ How can a Standard user change PEQ settings on a channel in an unavailable Scene 1? ---
**Author:** ![Deleted.User](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/deleted.user/32/4433_2.png) [@Deleted.User](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/Deleted.User)\ **Post date:** [10 May 2016 11:14 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818/4 "2016-05-10T11:14:05Z")
The scene is not auto recalled on reboot, but will be listed at the bottom of the screen - so their changes will be on the desk, and it will kind of look like that is scene 1, but unless it’s been recalled it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![gilbarry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8491ac/32.png) [@gilbarry](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/gilbarry)\ **Post date:** [10 May 2016 12:07 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818/5 "2016-05-10T12:07:48Z")
Yes Bob i know that. When i log in as Admin i highlight Scene 1 and recall it ---
**Author:** ![gcumbee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/gcumbee/32/491_2.png) [@gcumbee](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/gcumbee)\ **Post date:** [10 May 2016 13:40 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818/6 "2016-05-10T13:40:24Z")
As in my other thread I started. This whole scene business has confused a lot of people and I am not convinced it works like it should. It is the only thing now with the console that is an ongoing confusion with most people. I have had customers just give up on it. ---
**Author:** ![Deleted.User](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/deleted.user/32/4433_2.png) [@Deleted.User](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/Deleted.User)\ **Post date:** [10 May 2016 15:35 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818/7 "2016-05-10T15:35:10Z")
@gilly - worth checking 😉 I tend to splat and reload from memory stick because my desk gets hired out as well… ---
**Author:** ![gilbarry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8491ac/32.png) [@gilbarry](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/gilbarry)\ **Post date:** [10 May 2016 22:46 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818/8 "2016-05-10T22:46:09Z")
GC i read through your previous thread and yes i agree it’s confusing, even the experienced gurus are confused or at least are disagreeing on what is and what should be. Today i experimented and logged on as Admin, recalled Scene 1, made an EQ change on Ch20. Then i logged out and straight away logged back in as Standard user (remember that Standard users only were given access to Scenes 15-100). And Scene 1 was showing in scene selection tab and also at bottom of screen. And i changed a few settings and went to save and as i expected the scene it saved to was the first available scene which was Scene 15, and not Scene 1 as was suggested earlier by Nicola. And when i logged back in as Admin and recalled Scene 1 it was untouched from last time. Which is the way it should be, so I’m still left wondering how my settings in Scene 1 could be effected by a Standard user. Weird !! Bob what is splat? ---
**Author:** ![Deleted.User](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/deleted.user/32/4433_2.png) [@Deleted.User](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/Deleted.User)\ **Post date:** [11 May 2016 10:36 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/scene-in-admin-being-changed-by-standard-users/4818/9 "2016-05-11T10:36:16Z")
Splat - I do a full restore from USB. I “plat” the configuration that was left from whoever used it on it’s last hire