Scene save terminology

It would be nice if the names of the functions in scene save and recall used more common terminology, like “save” and “save as” instead of the ones currently being used.

The terminology reflects what you are doing. That’s why it is used.

I’m not sure I understand this. When I save a scene I’m presented with Save New or Overwrite. To me this makes more sense than just Save or Save As. I like seeing the Overwrite option since it makes it very clear that I’m about to replace a scene with one with potentially different settings and if I would like to keep the old settings I should choose Save New.

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Your feature request make sense.
I also feel sometimes confuse when on the scene screen.
Especially the fact that I am not presented the current scene when go in that screen.

There is no current scene. Only a last recalled scene could be shown.

When I go on the scene screen, the scene highlighted is always the first in the list, whatever scene number you are actually in.
This is a bit confusing.

You are never ‘in’ a scene, which is why ‘Save’ does not accurately describe what’s happening.
There is one current state of the mixer (i.e. all parameters and settings), you can Store this state, and then later Recall it - which replaces the current state of the mixer with the one that was stored.
As soon as you make any changes, the current state no longer matches the stored state.

Another way to describe it is that you are putting away a copy of the mixer state.

The current state of the mixer is periodically saved/stored separately to the scenes storage (saved is more appropriate here) which enables it to boot in the same state as when it was shut down. But you’ll notice that this has no bearing on which scene is selected in the scenes list, and in other mixer ranges, no ‘Current Scene’ will be listed.

What Steffan is getting at is that what is thought of and described as the ‘Current Scene’ is more accurately the ‘Last Recalled Scene’.

Sorry if this is confusing! We try very hard to make it less confusing, but also truthful to what’s going on.
Keith.

I fully understand the above statement.
But when I recall “scene 2”, I assume my mixer to be under “scene 2”, even if this is not fully true.
A less confusing improvement would be to always highlight the last recalled scene even after an OFF/ON of the mixer and as long as not other scene was recalled.

But what should happen if you recall a show?

I agree that it would be helpful to mark the last recalled scene somehow.

To my use it doesn’t matter if the first scene comes when loading a Show because
I don’t change of “Show” during a show :sweat_smile:
I mostly switch between scenes with midi to change FX settings, sometimes input processing, all the things that doesn’t have midi control.
The confusion happens when I want to edit and overwrite a scene, I need to be sure I do it on the good one.
Simply make the little tick mark green to highlight witch scene I am about to overwrite (aka the last recalled one) would be great.