In this case, even if you mute the FOH, they should still be performing like nothing happened :)
I’ve had this happen with the covers band - the main power amp failed (still don’t know why). did virtually all my investigation Sioux them stopping…
“The show must go on”
Thanks all you guys for your input, very helpful and also encouraging.
I do agree that we should think of ourselves as one team and I also like to think of us (i.e. the whole congregation but in this case specifically the sound + worship teams) as a family who sometimes disagrees but gets on with it and has each others backs.
I am contemplating suggesting to look at the ME-1 in-ear system. I notice from the official publication that they say “ME-1 is the cornerstone of the ME Personal Mixing System and is ready to use with the Allen & Heath iLive and GLD series digital mixers” but they don’t include the QU series in this statement. Is this because the ME-1 brochure was published before the QU desk ?. Will it work just as well with our QU-24, I assume so but just want to be absolutely sure before I start suggesting this as a viable option. We still use the analogue multi-core cable (with XLR’S both ends) for our new QU-24 as they are all wirede and solidly connected to 6 total floor level stage boxes. But we also ran a CAT-5 cable down between desk and stage as backup, so I’m thinking we could use this as the SNAKE connection between QU-24 and the ME-1 monitor boxes. I like that each musician can select up to 16 channels (which is more than enough for our church worship needs) as our current Furman HR-6 in-ear system only allows 5 channels.
The me-1s are compatible with Qu. They can mix 40 channels, you’re not limited to 16. Although the qu24 only has 30x inputs, you can also send mixes, LR and fx returns to the me-1s too, not just the input channels; the 40x channels are assignable. There are a whole lot of caveats that apply when getting the band to mix their own monitors though. If it’s just remote control they need, perhaps look into the qu-you app for iOS and android.
Yes I understand you can select up to 40 channles(or 30 in my case with the QU24) but only 16 directly, if you want more you have to group them and then go into that group and individually select, isn’t that correct?
What do you mean there are a whole load of caveats, from what i read it seems to be very easy and intuitive to use, no?
Re the QU-Pad, that would only allow the musicians to mix themselves on the existing wedge monitors. This would be DISASTROUS altogether as they would all have their own wedges very loud…NO WAY
Yes, you’re right with the 16 vs 40 thing. You can send 40 channels to the me1s, then each me1 user decides how to mix those 40 channels. They have 16 groups to fit those 40 channels in. Each group can contain anywhere from 0-40 channels, and they can be set differently on each me1. Eg your drummer might have 8 of his 16 as individual drum channels, and group the backing vox. The backing vocalists might use ch1-8 for vocals and reverbs etc, then create a group for ksh.
Re the caveats, I was referring to a band mixing their own monitors in general, not specifically using the me1s. The main three caveats include the band paying more attention to tweaking their individual mixes than actually playing their instruments (especially at the start when there’s a cool new toy with a bit of a learning curve,) giving themselves “more me” and completely destroying the stage noise, and finally creating feedback and not knowing hiw to fix it quickly. Admittedly those last 2 are more if an issue if you’re using wedges instead of iems.
To me it seems that spending > $600pp to fix a stage volume problem is an expensive way to go when what really needs to happen is some amps get turned down. If people are arguing about who has control of which mix, then mixing via qu-you could help, and would be cheaper than me1s, but then you’re back to the caveats.
Personal mixes have to be used with headphone, so no caveats there. I found Qu-you + powerplay p1 a good solution.