suggestions

what would You like to have added to Your iLive?

I’ll start:

-Easy centering of EQ faders (belive this one is coming)

-Vi style ganging of channels

-Gated reverbs

-Online accessible user libraries for eq, effects and dynamics

I’ll think of more soon. I met Carey and Leon at PLASA and looked at the latest additions to the system, the on/ offline editor and the added support for PL-units and an external touchscreen looked good! This system will continue to develop and their support is fantastic!!

Audio output from touchscreen allowing MP3 playback for pre-show.

or

A new module that can be inserted in the Rack or Surface that contains a CD player and or MP3 player that can be accessed and controlled from the touch screen.

“QWERTY” keyboard :smiley:

Gain tracking Arghhh!

Spent the weekend with a 144 on monitors and 112 on FOH gave the Monitor engineer the gain control (sensible move for sure) but as usual when he tweaked his I had to do the reverse for FOH. Bit of a pain.

Still as a couple of B.E’s were heard to say it sounded sweeter than the PM5 it was sitting next too.

Mr.B.

You can reset the whole graphic flat on faders by holding down reset and pressing the sel button on the touch screen. Individual bands is being looked at - as you said. As is channel ganging.

I have just finished the prototype gated verbs for iLive should be in v1.4 touch wood. i think they sound great.

Online accesible libraries, we wanted some user’s library settings first, maybe we need some web space for them. Could be interesting…

genrally it would be great - that fader to zero-function i would have it on a softknob,of course with (full) bank select option

cheers

dave

Being able to use system manager online without a surface.

That would be great for the corporate stuff where a laptop is all you need.

a multiband/“mastering style” compressor for a rec/broadcast submix

(stereo aux as output for broadcast)i did a little 10 years anyversary

of a local radiostation the venue was club size (250 people) therefore not enough guitars on the foh masters (they where loud enough on stage).

it worked pretty well we used a external mb comp but you know…

cheers

dave

allen&heath i-live digital /focusrite octopre/ rme digi/multiface/

samplitude pro v 10.01 / sample-tank / synthogy ivory / DFHS drummer

algoritmix renovator/de scratch pro/de noise pro/peq orange red and blue /K-stereo

mp3 playback / recording to a USB drive - like the LS9 from Yamaha.

We’re just getting rolling on the desk - so far I’m impressed, but I’m certainly too new to have very many suggestions.

-Bryce Larson

Production Manager

The Arts Center on 7

bryce@minnetonkatheatre.com

I would love to see timing available on scene recall - crossfade times. This would allow timed panning, channel level etc to be stored and recalled.

-Bryce Larson

Production Manager

The Arts Center on 7

bryce@minnetonkatheatre.com

A multiband compressor would be wonderful!

And May I suggest some form of room-tuning tool to round off the RTA section?

Hi Peter, thanks for the suggestions, more useful ideas to stir into the big melting pot [:smiley: ]

There are a couple ways to have your master LR mix on a single fader. The one I use most of the time now is to feed L and R into a stereo matrix, and use the matrix on a single fader strip as the master. This also gives me a stereo graphic EQ and stereo RTA of the main mix. The L and R masters can be hidden away on a lower layer. If you set the L and R masters to ‘0’ and their sends to matrix to ‘0’ with pan hard left and right you get the correct gain structure with the matrix meter showing you the correct level.

The other method is to assign L and R to a DCA, more useful if you have other feeds such as sub and fills as part of the house mix with the DCA giving you a ‘house master’ of several mix outputs.

And… you can’t use two surfaces with a single rack yet. You can however use your laptop to control two iLive systems by connecting them all together on the same network, giving them unique IP addresses and running two Editor sessions.

Hope that helps,

Carey

Hey Quick Question Guys.

I’m an operator at my local Chruch and we are using an iLive80.

we’ve loaded the lastest Firmware update v1.32 and am using my iLive Editor on my Laptop but the Firmware update on the Physical Surface keeps Dropping out whenever I try to logon to the from my Laptop.

N.B. on main screen we get all 4 Green ticks however when we try to logon using iLive Editor the firmware Trick drops out and we get a Red Cross next to Firm.

HELP PLEASE.

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Hi Paul, a few things to check if Editor does not connect correctly or causes the iLive show a red cross error:

  1. Make sure the ‘Enable External Ethernet Connections’ option is turned on in the iLive UTILITY / Configuration / Preferences page. In your case I’m sure it is set correctly.

  2. Make sure each device on the network has a unique IP address on a related network. Default iLive addresses are MixRack 192.168.1.1, Surface 192.168.1.2 and TouchScreen 192.168.1.3. Of course somebody could have changed these addresses. You can check them in the UTILITY / Network screen. Your PC running Editor must have an IP address that does not clash with these. For example set it to static address 192.168.1.10 on subnet 255.255.255.0 and it should be fine.

  3. If you are using a wireless router then it too should be set to a unique address that does not clash with the other addresses, for example 192.168.1.11.

  4. Note that you need a computer that is powerful enough to handle the Editor program. We have provided a minimum specification in the Release Notes. If your PC is below this specification you could experience some performance issues.

  5. In some cases having two network adapters with related addresses on your computer (LAN and wireless) may cause problems. If this is the case try disabling the one you are not using.

I suspect though that you have a network IP address clash.

Let me know if you need further help with this.

Regards,

Carey

Will Do.

I won’t acctually get a chance to try till Wednesday (Today being Monday) but will def check my network settings on my laptop and let you know, when i try, what happens

Thanks for all your help

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Hello,

After few months of working on iLive there are some issues I would like to see changed or implemented:

-fader calibration;

-faster starting up. much faster. 1:20 is not a good time for live situation;

-test function allowing to check all faders, LCDs and LEDs;

-implemented speaker processing unit (it will be nice invention);

-minesweeper and solitaire;

-possibility of using two surfaces with one mixrack;

-possibility of using two mixracks with one surface;

-‘clear all console’ software button, reseting all control parameters, names and layout;

-faster patchbay - i.e. seabattle style;

-surround panning (and multichannel effect processors);

-screen saver with timer counting down to the end of gig (:


I’ll write more, if some new idea occur (:

Best regards for all!

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Hi Zike :smiley:

-Patching

Did you allready use the Editor ?

Patching is VERY fast with the editor,

-and on the same laptop you can play solitaire and minesweeper !

-clear all button ? why not load empty or preset sessions that you made for your setup ?

All rental companies have different setups. MAke your own empty session and load.

-speakermanagement is allready an old discussion for the iLive

Was a good plan originally, but lotta Rental companies said NO WAY !

Is a bit tricky to send a few engineers on the road , with

just loading another mix or setup and speakermangemnt is then included,

must be protected very good, otherwise a dangerous option.

must speakermanagement will allways be done in the ampracks with XTA, BSS or OEM processors.

Other subject is system main matrix management , but that works fine now as it is in the iLive

  • multiple console and rack setups are planned for the future, you allready can control 1 rack

now by console and laptop from 2 places… :smiley: using laptop for monitors.

-YEah a test mode ! and then let all lights flash and all faders move…

Yeah ! Let’s give that mode a city name… not an USA city like Vegas mode, not an italian city like Verona

but call it LONDON mode, or Cornwall mode :smiley:

-Would love the calibration !

-Surround ? what’s the percentage of your projects wich use surround ?

Greetz from Holland !

Hi Jaap!

I think you are right. Some of my habits can be caused by using DShow venue for a long time. Also work ‘standards’ in Poland makes me thinking of such things like speaker processor in console.

-London or Cornwall mode can be differ than other_city_name mode. I need only to light up all LEDs (yesterday I have to replace one). I don’t need blinking and flashing but sometimes it is very useful thing (:

-Sometimes it is hard to put next laptop to work with the console. It is obviously very good idea, but when my computer controls the PA system, wireless microphones and records few tracks I don’t want to ask him for more (:

-Surround is not offen now. But I try to do some things using surround panning. I use auxes to set source position in space, and will be very happy when pan knob can act as an Left/Right and Front/Rear.

-Laptop for monitors? It is fine to me. I worked with 01V96 hidden under the table. I heard that ‘I have a good sound card’ from a man who saw me controlling sound from laptop (: But have you ever tried to imagine old soundman, who hates digital desks working on laptop? Digital desks are prohibited in some polish technical riders, so asking those men for working on laps will cause serious health problems (like a broken nose…) (:

Of course, in many times I can do the whole gig even on A&H Wizard or similar. But I am thinking of those who needs 64 channel, 4 FXs, 24 gates and of course multiblink-o-flashing rack for acoustic jazz trio… Sometimes we have to cooperate with people like this and every ‘problem’ will be pointed and commented in not polite way.

Jaap, what do you think about countdown timer??? (:

Greetings from Poland!

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Hi ZiKE

  • Cornwall mode will rule !!! Just to irritate the lightguy next to me :smiley:

  • Calibration is nice when done manual, but during your “long” startuptime a lot of calibration is allready done,

but I agree on an extra manual calibration to reset after “äccidents”

  • A laptop connected for setup, using the editor… I do that also with XTA software, Martin Audio software

and Shure Workbench running at the same time, Why/How ? I use the editor for prepping a show, when prepping

and patching i’m not working on my PA or mic’s… maybe just my idea.

and yeah what’s the cost of an extra laptop to make the work with the iLive a lot easier…

many mixers with more screens are far more expensive :smiley: for that difference i can buy about 20 laptops.

  • When MADI is ready for you ilive, use the RME madifaceE with your laptop… haha then they will love your soundcard.

  • The countdowntimer ? So your shows are timed or on a Digidesign rig , that you know exactly when your show ends…

Well at the moemnt that I am desparately seeking for a countdown timer to reach the end of my show, maybe it is

better to find another Job or production :smiley: Cannot find a serious argument for that one, I’m sorry !

You know what I would love ?

-More flexible Ethersound functions in the console for advanced users, Like tweaking the ES A port for using more

“free” lines, or patching from I to O on other rack or console, so you won’t need any extra analog tielines anymore,

or will not loose any buss and input DSP.

-More world wide engineers who scream about the sound quality of these consoles, the FX quality and above all, the

cross console compatibility : a show from your small setup (80) will sound the same on th big touring rig (176)

and that is the way AH is working to… Ever tried to load a show from a M7CL to a PM5D ??

-3 HE racks with 2 cardslots and a RAB card, with a manual switch on it in 4 modes… 1-16/17-32/33-48/49-64

-overview screen output that displays not the touchscreen but a User based mix of in/outputs ( multiple ! , like

all inputs together )

and many other things wich are allready on the list and written in this discussion…

But anyway , we love them allready :smiley:

Hey Guys

I spose I’m more pointingout a fact then suggesting anything but onething I’ve noticed with more recent firmware updates is that the 48v (Phantom Power) button on the control interface doesn’t wanna work I have to go in through the Pre-amp to turn it on or off.

this is a minor inconvienience I know but would like to know can we look forward to it working again in the future or is it still working but here’s a setup trick that I’m missing here.

PaulBag