October 7th. The wait is over.
https://www.allen-heath.com/avantis/
Congratulations!
It looks fantastic!
It looks fantastic… What’s UK availability and pricing going to be?
Hey Nicola! Nice one!
1.are the led lights integrated like in the SQ and dLive series?
2.are you planning a 96k 24-12 with dLive stagebox?
3.will you allow direct 96k multitracking recording on this one, please? (like on the SQ)
nice one with the AES I/0 and the faders number… thumbs up!
i’m curious to test this “new” workflow too…
needs to test one asap…
when will be avalaible?
Thank you!
howdy
Cheu
Looks like a great console, Nicola! I saw a post yesterday that listed “Oscillator/RTA/Spectrograph” as a feature for the Avantis. I don’t see that listed anywhere today. Can you ellaborate on A&H development of an RTA/spectrograh for this console (and hopefully future firmware releases for Dlive and SQ)?
Hey Cheu,
Glad you like it. I know you’ve been waiting for something in this space.
- Yes, there is an integrated LED bar, but this time in the armrest, projecting white / blue light over the faders for visibility of fader positions. Optionally Scene automated like on SQ / dLive.
- Not at this stage (excuse the pun). I believe we have enough I/O options to cover all bases, remember you can still use a DX Hub + DX 168 / DX012 / DX32 / DX164-W.
- No, Avantis does not offer multitrack recording over USB. You’ll need a Dante or Waves card.
Availability in November.
Thank you Nicola,
looks the Avantis ticks a lot of boxes for me…Nice job! I definitely need to test it out
regarding the stageboxes: true, there’s a lot of options… would be great if the dx168 was a little bit more thought to be racked honestly (I know you can, but the pwr connector and cat connectors on the side are NOT a smart idea…very unpractical…put the on the back please…it would make so much sense, even in a standalone/non racked setting) and if there will be a DX84 might also be a good add. (you could use that DX012 frame)
regarding the multitracking on USB: may I kindly ask to reconsidering it? it would be so practical also as a simple backup on top of the Dante or Waves option (you might limit the amount of tracks to 32 if that’s one of the issues you have with usb, like on the SQ)…
is the DCA spill option avalaible for the Avantis and/or the SQ?
Thank you!
howdy
Cheu
The old gld cards will fit wih the multichannel interface?
Richard
So do we know yet what is available without the dpack? Is there still a dyn4 and mbd4 in the fx rack like the gld? Is there side-chain capability on the included compressors?
How about a USB I/O card? I know everything USB does can be done better with Dante, but for all the people who are only going to use it to multitrack into a laptop Dante can be cost prohibitive.
Chris
Is the ‘touch sensitivity’ data sent out through midi?
I know its a ‘live sound desk’
I guess I am asking are these touch sensitive faders not just solely for internal but also for DAW
@Showtime Yes, the GLD MADI, Dante, Waves or ES V2 cards are supported via the M-DL-ADAPT.
@cheu78 DCA Spill is available in Avantis.
@BWright Side-chain capability - yes. DynEQ and MultiBD in the FX rack - no.
@xyz The touch information is not sent through MIDI. I suspect this will come up as a feature request
Not happy at all about removing the stereo 1/4" inputs. Makes it more difficult to hookup local inputs like CD player, smart devices etc. Good reason to stick with SQ if you don’t need more than 48 in.
Yes sometimes just simple little things like lack of 2 TRS i9nputs can sway a sale.
It wouldnt take a lot to have those
Really guys, would that be a dealbreaker for you? In the SQ case I have a stereo TRS-3.5 cable and in the case of the dLive I use is a stereo XLR-3.5 cable.
Well. Point is. Say you have 3 stereo playback sources. That’s now 6 of the 12 XLR inputs. That leaves 6. Your customer has 6-12 local RF mics. Guess you relocate those to the stage to hit the stagebox.
So, in fact the problem is now that there is no possibility to have a second SLink port. Ok, you can place a SQ5 with a SLink Card beside the Avantis to have extra analog inputs on FOH. But is that something you like when you bought a 10.000 bucks console from 2019? Maybe A&H will release a SLink card for the Avantis in future. One feature request for the next generation: add more than one SLink ports, or whatever comes next, to your consoles right from the beginning. Even the cheap X32 comes with two AES50 port out of the box which allows you very flexible and complex setups. Sometimes it would be helpful to lok behind the plate;-)
How about talking to the people who actually use these? This is a FUBAR. Guess SQ will live. The most versatile console they have ever built next to QU
I think you’re being a bit over-dramatic. The Avantis is the successor to the GLD which only had 8 surface inputs - four of which were XLR, and four were RCA, which I argue is way more annoying than if they were 8 XLRs - it’s a lot easier to adapt a line in to an XLR input than it is to try to use a mic into an RCA input. The Avantis has 12 on the surface. Even the DLive only has 6 inputs on the surface. Both of these models are designed to be used with remote IO. If you need more IO at FOH than is available on the surface, then add more. The Avantis supports two GX4816 racks so you can have 60 inputs at FOH and 48 more on stage (limited by the maximum IO count of the board, of course), among other configurations.
Or, if the SQ fits your needs better, then use that.
Not being over dramatic. Just making my point. I’ve been doing this almost 50yrs. I’ve seen everything. I still own a GLD. RCA ins for playback was ok. I made it work. It had built in expansion port. Didn’t have to buy another card. I was thrilled when QU came out and they gave us many local ins plus stereo 1/4". Same with SQ. So in some ways this is a step backward. They didn’t fully consider the church or other smaller market in my view.