# What are the planned 128ch expansion cards?

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**Category:** dLive General Discussions\
**Created:** [18 September 2016 16:38 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/what-are-the-planned-128ch-expansion-cards/5182 "2016-09-18T16:38:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![vilddyret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a3d4f5/32.png) [@vilddyret](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/vilddyret)\
**Post date:** [1 February 2017 18:01 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/what-are-the-planned-128ch-expansion-cards/5182/21 "2017-02-01T18:01:33Z")

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Hi A&H.

Any news on ETA for MADI card?

Regards, Tor

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**Author:** ![NicB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/nicb/32/4389_2.png) [@NicB](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/NicB)\
**Post date:** [1 February 2017 22:56 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/what-are-the-planned-128ch-expansion-cards/5182/22 "2017-02-01T22:56:56Z")

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@tor  
Looks like April-May.

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**Author:** ![ddff\_lv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/ddff_lv/32/2493_2.png) [@ddff\_lv](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/ddff_lv)\
**Post date:** [2 February 2017 07:57 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/what-are-the-planned-128ch-expansion-cards/5182/23 "2017-02-02T07:57:42Z")

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And how about Dante?

ddff

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**Author:** ![vilddyret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a3d4f5/32.png) [@vilddyret](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/vilddyret)\
**Post date:** [2 February 2017 10:55 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/what-are-the-planned-128ch-expansion-cards/5182/24 "2017-02-02T10:55:06Z")

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Awesome Nicola!

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**Author:** ![vilddyret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a3d4f5/32.png) [@vilddyret](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/vilddyret)\
**Post date:** [8 February 2017 22:21 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/what-are-the-planned-128ch-expansion-cards/5182/25 "2017-02-08T22:21:33Z")

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@Nicola - my plan was to use the MADI card as a digital split to Digico SD8 console. But can you tell me if this could also be achieved with the M-Waves card connected to a Digico with Waves expansion, and if the “latency” will be the same on soundgrid vs MADI for digital split?

I would very much like to be free from SRC, so a 96khz connection will be much preferred.

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**Author:** ![NicB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.allen-heath.com/nicb/32/4389_2.png) [@NicB](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/NicB)\
**Post date:** [10 February 2017 10:51 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/what-are-the-planned-128ch-expansion-cards/5182/26 "2017-02-10T10:51:21Z")

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@tor - I asked our friends at Waves and Digico and this is what I got:

This can be done over Waves SoundGrid but…

- You will need an external laptop running MultiRack or SGStudio to set up and control the network. The MultiRack on the SD8 will not be able to control the A&H M-Waves card directly.
- You cannot clock the Digico from the SG port, so you’d have to make the dLive slave, OR provide a Wordclock to the Digico if you wanted dLive to be master.

There is no real difference in using SG vs MADI in terms of latency.

Hope this helps.

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**Author:** ![vilddyret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a3d4f5/32.png) [@vilddyret](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/vilddyret)\
**Post date:** [10 February 2017 12:16 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/what-are-the-planned-128ch-expansion-cards/5182/27 "2017-02-10T12:16:52Z")

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Ok. But 2 A&H M-waves V3 cards can be used for digital split, without an extra connected control computer?

Thanks for your help, but it is quite bad news for me 😃 hihi. But this just shows the inherent design failure of the soundgrid protocol - the absolute demand for a control computer attached to the network at all times. The soundgrid network/servers should be able to maintain all settings within themselves, and the attached computer should just be a “remote control” - it is beyond my understanding why they would design it in any other way.

I will have to really cross my fingers for the dLive MADI card being ready before may 🙂

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**Author:** ![epalumbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c6cbf5/32.png) [@epalumbo](https://forums.allen-heath.com/u/epalumbo)\
**Post date:** [27 March 2017 18:16 UTC](https://forums.allen-heath.com/t/what-are-the-planned-128ch-expansion-cards/5182/28 "2017-03-27T18:16:37Z")

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Any word on Dante?

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