4You apps now available!

I’m pleased to announce that the 4You personal monitoring app is now available for dLive and Avantis mixers, phone compatible (Android / iOS).

https://www.allen-heath.com/4you/

dLive and Avantis support up to 40 device connections each. These include the Avantis mixer / dLive Surface, and any IP Controller, Director, MixPad, OneMix or 4You instance.

For most good quality 5GHz WiFi routers, 20 4You connections are achievable without significant configuration. For advice on the deployment of larger systems please read the app Help file and our Knowledgebase.

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Our team has been using Custom Control as an alternative, which has worked well (with some caveats). This is a very welcome addition though.

The groups and general plug-n-play nature of this app will be great.

Long overdue IMHO, but certainly a welcome addition!

PS - the “Lock Mix” functionality is awesome.

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Take it easy, it’s only been 10 years!

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  1. Thank you. Finally! We have 5 dLive systems and need personal monitor control multiple times a week with different band members and engineers and have waited many years to get something designed for dLive by A&H instead of 3rd party apps that can be finicky and overly complicated.
  2. This does not seem to be fully thought-out for dLive and it’s users [your flagship console ($$$) customer base.]
  3. Limiting groups to 16 channels is a big problem. With a 128 channel + FX console, we need to be able to access more channels on this app without constantly editing groups.
  4. Group assignments should be tied to channels specific to a currently loaded show file on a currently connected Mix Engine. At launch, these group assignments are simply looking at whatever is on channel 1-8, or 24-35, or whatever and they do not follow when switching from MON console A to MON console B or when loading a new show file that may have a different channel structure. This will be a big problem for anyone who uses more than one system or more than one show file (which I imagine is most users in this class of console.)
  5. Channel colors should carry over from the console. In scenarios where you’re using either multi-surface or just splitting the desk to be MON+FOH, identifying channels by color is useful but the app does not track this. 3rd party apps do so we know this is possible.
  6. It would be a huge help if Aux/Bus/Mix selection only included channels currently assigned to that bus. You can’t do assignments from this app anyways so this would not be a limitation to the user if it updated available IP channels to whichever AUX was currently selected. At least one other high-end console does this and it makes things very easy for the user.
  7. Group wheels should have some visual indication for current level and scroll limit. Yes there is an audible stop when either a single channel reaches its limit or all channels are inaudible but from the Home/Group page, this is challenging for the operator to know the current state of the channel faders unless the go into the group and possibly scroll through to find what they need. These should operate more closely to DCA faders on the surfaces.

Again, happy, devoted A&H customer and user here. This is a much requested app and many are very happy today, but these things need to be considered and fixed quickly.

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Finally! This is great!

some of my players for this weekends House of worship services have already downloaded it. My guy who has been doing the CC layout for me is VERY happy :slight_smile:

Great to see some new apps for dLive! I do however have some criticisms of the 4You app, and this applies to the SQ version of the app as well.
As others here have said;

  1. The limit of 16 channels per group is a bit low for some applications.
  2. Channel colours not carrying over to the app is a real shame as this can help a musician differentiate different groups of channels quickly.
  3. The Group wheels having no visual indication of level is a bit of a minefield for users and engineers. Would be great to have the option to change to a fader or at least have some indication of what the current level is.
  4. The inability to re-order faders within a group is not ideal. Almost all channel lists are ordered from the FOH engineer’s perspective, so guitar stage right might be Chn 12 and guitar stage left would follow as Chn 13. Unfortunately this means the faders on the app are the wrong way round for the musicians who are facing in the other direction.

This would be a great app if these limitations were fixed but for now I see no reason to move away from OneMix which doesn’t suffer with these limitations. Fingers crossed we might get an update which addresses some of these issues :crossed_fingers:

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+1 to all of that.

16 channel limit is a must get rid of. You basically have only 48 channels available (apart from the “me” group), which is just not enough on a 128ch (plus returns, groups, whatever) console.

Basically it is good to finally have phone versions for personal IEM monitoring.

How do I setup a mix for a user on the console. Right now, I have to log as admin in every dLive4U app of the musicians phones and select the mix manually. On SQ I can assign mixes to users on the console (block all other mixes actually), not possible on the dLive?

Any news on that? dLive4u is a bit half finished right now.