audio interface: support 44.1khz sample rate

the akai mpc series only supports 44100hz sample rate for now.
would be useful to have 44.1khz as an option for the audio interface together with 48khz and 96k
this was already requested for other alien heath mixers in this forum.

yes, this is relevant for me too. I am sitting here with the beautifull CQ12t and it is not working with my MPC. And this was the Reason for buying.
Is it planned to implement 44.1 kHz?

In one way or another the word “OBSOLESCENCE” needs to be considered. A 12 bit, 44.1 sample rate was the established Red Book format for CD production that is now pretty much considered obsolete. Flash drives and SD cards that work very well with either 24/48 or 24/98K WAV files are todays prefered recording storage protocols. For that matter CD player/recorder production is now dead in the market. It is highly unlikely A&H will address the needs of yesterdays 44.1 recording protocols with their consoles.
Hugh

CD has 16 Bit. And the CD-Audio-Format is everything, the human biology needs - you can’t “hear more”. So for delivery use cases its not obsolete at all, only the industry likes to sell “more” for a better price without a real benefit (and they really are succeeding with that strategy as today there are many people who believe, 96k/24Bit sounds better than CD quality – which is really not the case).

Considering that it is not our part to judge the question for 44.1k, I also cannot imagine, that such a change would or even can be done with the CQ/SQ/Dlive-Hardware.

Best Regards,
Tobias

CD (16 bit, 44.1k) is OK (not the best) as source for listening, but not as raw source to work. In deep/multiple processing, there will be some interfacts like aliasing, poor dinamics, etc that 96k/24Bit sources will support better.

I am not sure I understand the point here.
What is the problem exactly with your akai MPC and its 44.1 sample rate regarding the CQ ?

The MPC allows you to get aditional ins and outs with a class compliant interface. Sadly just 44,1khz is supported this way.

From the beginning of the digital revolution the Pro Std was 24/48K: this was driven by commercial video protocols. Consumer music marketing and storage was primarily 16/44.1 CDs or 12bit MP3s but was never ever a “Pro Std” protocol!
Today it is very difficult to find a CD recorder/player manufacturer. The reason is CDs and MP3s are pretty much obsolete. They have been replaced with USB flash drives and SD cards that are compatible with 24/ 48 or 96K wav file storage.
Yesterdays perfect tool can quickly become todays surpurflous junk in the fast moving digital processing world. Tough as it is to swallow, that is whwere we are today.
Hugh

This is all true.
But it doesnt help with the problem of this thread!
This is about using the A%H CQ as a class complient interface with Akai Mpc series. This is about the need for 44.1 kHz to do this.
I think this cant be changed by firmware (sadly), but perhaps in a MK2 version with slightly other hardware.
As soon this is possible, i will return to this device - but now my device must return to the shop :frowning:

so long - bye

hi I’ll explain again
i have(and a lot of people have) an akai mpc one
that device can use external usb audio interfaces via usb.
sadly that device only supports 44100 as a sample rate.

there are a lot of hardware devices similar to this (i had a maschine plus that was the same)

if cq could support also 44100 as a usb sample rate that means that i can use with the mpc one and get there a ton of input/outputs on the mpc via usb.

there are a lot of people using mpc or similar this could be a great market for allen heath cq

at the moment cq is recognized but then it says (the device doesn’t support 44100)

thanks
Nick

Hi all,

Our mixers run on a 96kHz core and we do all our processing on this basis. Getting to 48kHz is an easy conversion, so we offer that as well.
44.1kHz is unfortunately not as easy - it’s computationally more expensive and we haven’t got the processing headroom on the mixers to reliably provide this without it causing issues or reducing performance in other areas.
So, I can conclusively say that we won’t be adding support for 44.1kHz to the CQ range - it doesn’t have the processing available to handle the conversion and everything else going on.

Sorry, I know this probably isn’t the answer that you’d be hoping for, but I thought it’d be helpful to let you all know that it wasn’t something that was possible.

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