I’m laying out my surface, it’s all great. Then I need to add a new channel in the middle of the layout. I just want everything to slide over one channel so I can squeeze that extra channel in. Can the console do this? It just seems to replace the channel and I need to manually re-assign everything afterward one channel over at a time.
It might be more convenient to create your layout in MixPad - including inserting channels.
Yah, but the Mixpad app can receive the console layout but not the other way around? The behavior works as expected in Mix Pad, I can “shove” channels over on the surface layout OR replace a channel directly. But once it’s the way I need it to be I can’t transfer that layout back to the console, yah? So, not convenient when you want/need to mix on the desk itself. Unless I’m mistaken in which case plz feel free to correct me!
MixPad also has an “offline mode” in which you can pull or push a show to the SQ.
I designed my entire SQ7 configuration in offline mixpad mode whilst waiting for the desk to arrive then ‘pushed’ the entire show to it once the desk had arrived and was setup.
I had to do something similar to what you want to do the other week. You have to ‘slide’ each of the faders to the right of where you want the new one to be, one at a time (starting from the rightmost fader) then slip the fader you want in place.
I did find that I had to ‘lift the fader up’, then ‘slide it over’, then ‘drop it down’ - if this makes sense in terms of gestures.
Oh! This is helpful. Researching it now, I’m mildly flabberagsted that it applies to ALL the scenes on the desk though. Sheesh the opportunity for disaster is pretty big for just being able to better organize the channel controls. I wish they’d make the console version of strip assign work like the app does. Thanks though!
Yah, I Suppose thinking about it “from the right” and moving everything over before finally inserting the channel you want to add is prolly the best workflow if you need to do it on the desk itself. Still, kind of a bummer you can’t just “slip” a channel onto the desk and have it move everything over auotmagically like it does on the app.
Well, we can’t have everything…
You can ‘pull’ the desk configuration onto mixpad, modify it and ‘push’ it back.
Your choice…
Before we settled on our current configuration, I tested 3 or 4 different configurations on my phone using mixpad in offline mode. I then ‘pushed’ the show onto the desk.
You will find that some tasks are better performed using mixpad, and other tasks using the desk surface…
Dave
Haha, true that, we CAN’T have everything!
I’ll look at using the mixpad offline some more, but think it’s quite the oversight that if you’re using console at a live gig and need to add a mic for something you need to go in one-by-one and re org your surface. UNLESS you do it all on an ipad or laptop and then wipe the whole desk to restore it. Y’know? Surprised this isn’t a bigger feature request.
Thanks for the tips though!!
Surely, this is a very ‘odd’ use case though?
If you need to reconfigure the surface on a ‘per song’ basis, you would do this offline (during rehersals) and save it to a scene. You can have a unique surface for each song if you wish now…
Likewise, you have 6 layers to play with so, again, you could configure the layers to suite.
We have our layers set up so that we have access to all of the inputs, groups and aux channels + a common layer with the most used inputs, groups and aux channels in one place. This serves us for most of our use cases, but have occasions to do something ‘different’, so that ends up in a specific scene.
Just something else to mull over…
Dave
Is it odd? I run into this all the time, both in theatrical and musical applications, where we’ve set everything up and a special guest is announced or we need to add a mic for some reason or another. We don’t use the ipads and laptops as much in this venue so it’s just a bummer that the console doesn’t behave this way. It’s obvious it’s useful, which is why the Mixpad software DOES do this.
Perhaps all of the events I have worked on there has been better planning and/or communications?
The only partial disaster was a jazz event where the singer was involved in a car crash (she was ok) on the way to the venue and we had to draft other singers/musicians in to fill the void and completely change the set list. We managed though, but I don’t want to do that again in too much of a hurry…
Oh boy. Yah okay Daver2, I’m sure the issue here is that you’re just a planning genius and I’m working with a bunch of knuckleheads. You’re right I’m wrong, congrats.
As for me, I just want to be able to mix and config the desk to the behavior that I can do without having to either use a separate device OR use a method that nukes the entire console just because I want to squeeze in a fader in my existing layout. The console IS effectively a control surface for a mixing OS, wouldn’t think I would have to go outside the box (literally) to avoid having to move 31 faders just to add one. Seems reasonable to me, but hey, what do I know I’m just working in poorly planned productions with poor communications.
Thanks for the critique though, I needed a dose of remembering the ole Gearslutz forum vibe.
You misunderstood what I was saying. In the booth we were generally informed (usually by the artistic director or management) when a change to a production was going to happen ahead of time so we had a chance to prepare for it. That’s all. No more, no less, no offence intended.