CQ MixPad and Mixing Station on the same device

Hi.

I’ve searched here and I can’t find anything about the problem that we’re having with CQ MixPad and Mixing Station on the same Android device.

When our band is at home rehearsing or recording, we use the CQ MixPad app on our Samsung A9+ tablet Android device. At some of our gigs we sometimes get a our friendly sound guy to help us with sound but he uses Mixing Station so we’ve installed that on our Android tablet too.

However, whenever we’re at a gig and our sound guy tries to set everything up on Mixing Station he finds that he can’t do anything at all in Mixing Station unless we run CQ MixPad to start with unset anything that CQ MixPad’s set on our CQ-20B that’s upsetting Mixing Station. Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn’t but either way we spend a lot of time not doing a sound check and just trying to set up Mixing Station. Sometimes we’ve even had to abandon using our CQ-20B because we’re running out of time to do a sound check so our sound guy has to quickly swap out our CQ-20B with his own mixer and then we rush our sound check to getting started on time. We really want to use our CQ-20B when we’ve got our sound guy with us, particularly so we can record our performances to an SD card.

Searching here, it doesn’t appear that anybody else has had this problem, unless I’ve missed it, so maybe we’re doing something stupid? Or maybe nobody is running CQ MixPad and Mixing Station on the same device?

May thanks for any advice and help.

I run MS and CQ Mixpad on the same iOS tablet and have also done so in android tablets. They coexist fine. The only issue is when you switch away from one, the other loses connection. No an issue for MS because it auto reconnects when it’s in focus again. But Mixpad you have to OK the “lost connection” warning and reconnect manually.

Sure no one else is also joining the CQ? There’s a limit to the number of concurrent users (3 iirc) and your tablet will be taking two of them.

Thanks a lot for replying.

I think maybe I haven’t explained our problem very well. We’re not trying to run CQ MixPad and Mixing Station sumultaneously on the same device. It’s just that CQ MixPad and Mixing Station are on the same device. We’re only running CQ MP or MS not both at the same time and we’re only using this device and we’re not sharing with any other device.

Maybe an example of the problem might help

1 Our band rehearses and sets CQ MP to play back the vocals recorded from the SD card on input 1 and finishes that session and closes CQ MP and switches off our CQ-20B and our tablet.

2 Our band goes to a gig with our sound guy and he starts MS to set up our sound on our CQ-20B.

What happens here is our sound guy can’t do anything with input 1 unless we open CQ MP and switch input 1 from SD card to the mic. That would be OK if that was all we had to fix but we have to try to find everything that CQ MP has set that’s stopping MS from working with our CQ-20B.

I get that our CQ-20B may still have everything set as it was the last time it was used with CQ MP but what I don’t get is that we can’t just start a new session with MS and change anything.

I’m sure we’re missing something and we’re doing something obviously wrong :frowning:

There is no reason why you should not just be able to swap between MS and CQ MixPad, in fact you can run both at the same time on different tablets. I use MS for CQ, Qu, both old and new, and SQ, as well as their respective Mix Pad apps, and in over 6 years have never seen your problem. Does the sound guy not copy the current settings of the mixer into MS?
Another question is what level of access does the sound guy have, does he have his own account on the mixer which limits what he can change?

Thanks a lot for replying. I’ll try to check the things you’ve suggested. I’ve only used CQ MP on our tablet and we only catch up with our sound guy if he’s at one of our gigs but I’ll have a go on MS on our tablet.

It sounds like the root of the problem happens because the CQ20 is typically set up for SD card playback while it obviously needs to be changed/set to the local inputs for a live show.

First, I agree with everyone that is saying that you should save a scene with the channels set to use the SD card playback (for VSC) and another scene with the channels set to the local inputs (for the live event). Then a simple scene recall will set the console to use whatever sources are desired in the moment. It shouldn’t take more than a few seconds to navigate to the scene system and load the appropriate scene which will change the entire console at one time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOd7yPHUkIc

Second, I would be surprised if Mixing Station doesn’t allow a user to change a channel’s source selection between local inputs and the SD card playback. However I do not have a CQ console to test this. I will say however that if Mixing Station really doesn’t have this functionality, I would recommend that you request this feature be added - making the request through the normal Mixing Station support system. David (the developer of MS) is very responsive to feature requests, and when it is technically possible, he tends to add new requests pretty darn quickly!

Thanks @robinhow , @highflyer190653 and @Brian-1 for all your help. I’ve never used Mixing Station before and now I’ve started to try to learn more about Mixing Station and how that works with our CQ-20B and trying things that you’ve all suggested here. Our sound guy doesn’t use an CQ-20B except when he’s with us. I think I can help him now with the basic set up with our CQ-20B and then he can do what he does on Mixing Station to make the band sound good live :slightly_smiling_face: Setting up a scene for SD card playback for our rehearsals/recording and setting up a different scene for local inputs for gigs is a really good idea that we should have done! That’ll save us a lot of trouble! Thanks again for everybody’s help here.

You can also simulate it offline - so it should be possible.

And Mixing Station can also handle scenes.

Thanks @SQuser . I’ve just tried that input matrix and it’s a much quicker way for me to swap between analog and SD than what I was doing, which was going into the config for each channel!

So, just pay for your sound guy to get the CQ MS app on his own tablet. It’s certainly cheaper than the hassle you’re having.