Maybe the answer is “That’s just how it is”. That’s OK, but I just want to make sure I understand.
I have my CQ monitor sends all set for pre-fader, which is normal. I got a little confused on a gig tonight because when I had a channel muted for the mains, I couldn’t do a mic check on the monitors.
As long as it was muted, it sent nothing to FOH or the monitor channels.
Is there no way to mute a channel for FOH but keep it open for the monitors so I can do a monitor check while FOH is running BG music?
Hello.
According to the bloc diagram the channel MUTE is before the pre/post fader switch for OUT so to me this is normal behavior.
To achieve what you need, just set the needed channel fader down (in pre fader).
… or - as an alternative to the recommended approach - simply mute Main LR during this time.
Yes, this is really the case with most consoles.
Mute is important, for example, to mute the inputs when you plug or unplug something.
You also never want to hear these extreme noises on all monitors.
Or, for example, in a theater, you don’t want to hear the actors nowhere who aren’t currently in the scene.
As always, there are special cases that can be taken into account with much more complex consoles.
But the standard is: “Mute” means mute.
Edit: I overlooked your
So my recommendation above was of course pointless.
One of the biggest problems I have encountered with the CQ20b is the difficulty that arises when the available info in the manual doesn’t comprehensively connect the dots. This thread is a perfect example of the problem.
At this point it is my understanding the only way to create isolated mixes for any purpose is to “GLOBALLY” Select “PRE FADER” in the “CONFIG/OUTPUT” screen. The Gain & PEQ settings will remain global however all additional embillishments will need to be assigned individually. You can’t isolate separate mixes with the CONFIG/INPUT screen. If this is not correct I would appreciate an official opinion to the contrary from someone with A&H.
Hugh
Do you really expect A&H to explain in detail in the manual that Mute mutes the entire channel, as is standard on every mixing console, and not just the Main LR?
This has nothing to do with the thread topic “Mute”, but since you keep mentioning it in different places, I’ll risk the following attempt:
You expect the manual to explain the logic behind why you can only create a fader-independent mix using the “Pre Fader” option, because the channels are split before the fader.?
For even better understanding, the following graphic from the manual shows yellow = Main Mix and red = Pre Fader Aux Mix.
As you can see, not only Gain and PEQ are present only once in the channel, but also, for example, HPF, Gate, Comp (and possibly AMM).
With the Aux Mix, you can decide whether you would prefer to split the signals alternatively before the compressor (red dots).
Contrary to SQ user’s summation of my post Globally setting PRE/FADER will enable isolated split processing. This is an important fundamental decision for some of us that is not clearly explained in the manual or any of the tutorials that I have been able to locate. This is exactly the problem the OP has described: Unless the LR mains are operating under a global PRE/FADER setting muting an input send to the mains will be a Post /Fader universal mute of the input.
While I respect SQuser’s opinions, I would deeply appreciate an official clarification of this situation by Keith or one of his assigns. A clear understanding the the CQ20b’s limitations that separate it’s fundamatal processing from more comprehensive consoles should require extreamly important tutorial disclosures of this nature.
Hugh
