I’ve been devoting the past week to learning all the ins and outs of my new CQ-20B running the latest firmware (v1.2.2.) While I’ve found a few minor surprises, I’ve been able to wrap my head around everything so far with the exception of this.
If I have an input feeding a shared FX bus, the amount of signal received should be controlled by two things: the send level set for that input specific to that FX bus (FX > Inputs), and the FX Send Level (FX > Control.) What happens instead is that there’s a third variable: the send level for the relevant input directly to the MainLR outputs! When this is off, no signal ever reaches the effect. The effects send seems to be post-MainLR fader which makes no sense to me. This can’t possibly be as intended?
Has anyone else noticed this and have you discovered a workaround?
Yes, the FX sends are post fader and affected by the level of the main L/R output.
Some people here have mentioned workarounds but I don’t remember what they were. I’d rather A&H just fix this pretty obvious oversight.
Thanks for confirming that this is a known issue. I’ve submitted a formal ticket to A&H and will see if I can’t get them to agree that this is, in fact, not how anyone would want things to work. Of course I can use the effect as an Insert for the trivial case, but if I’m trying to send multiple inputs to an effect bus and I don’t want the dry signals to appear in the mains then I’m not sure there is an effective workaround. I’ll see if I can older threads on the subject.
That’s pretty standard FX send behaviour… typically you want the ratio of dry to wet to remain constant as you adjust the channel fader.
If you just want a wet signal and no dry, can you just un assign the input from LR, and push up the fader? Alternatively you could insert a reverb directly on the input, and mix it 100% wet. Also, you could route one of your pre fader sends to the reverb instead.
@Kate
But this isn’t a bug; it’s a conscious decision.
However, there might be a kind of workaround:
In such cases, the only option currently available to the CQ is to shift the balance between wet and dry by setting the FX send in the respective channel as loud as possible and the Main fader as quiet as possible, so that the dry signal is no longer noticeably audible.
I think there are already several threads with a feature suggestion for alternative pre fader sends.
Perhaps you can find them using the search function.
I would think that these things aren’t possible with a CQ.
Or how do you do it?
I can see what you’re saying. That would make sense if I wanted that input to appear in the mains at all, which I don’t. Both the dry and wet signals in my use case are supposed to go to another output entirely and don’t belong in the MainLR mix.
Unfortunately I can see A&H thinking of this as a rare situation. I’d be good with either a pre/post-MainLR fader toggle, or better yet a choice of which Output send I want to scale according to (with “none” as effective a pre-fader option.)
I agree with you 100% Kate - you should be able to send pre-fader to the FX, I too think it’s a remarkable oversight. Was on the verge of emailing them everyday about this like the guy in the Shawshank Redemption and his library!