Hello, just got the T112/IDR48 for our church and trying to figure out the best way to get direct outs for recording purposes. Need a minimum of 24ch. What would be the advantages of getting EtherSound over M-Madi besides less cable to run? The few dealers i’ve spoken to have very limited knowledge… Where is a good place to buy?
Thank you for your time…
Ruslan
iLive T112/IDR48
Hi Ruslan
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What would be the advantages of getting EtherSound over M-MADI besides less cable to run?
Both EtherSound and MADI carry up to 64 Channels of bidirectional audio.
MADI requires 2 75 Ohm Coaxial cables for bidirectional (Record and playback) transmission; EtherSound only requires 1 cat5e cable.
For direct recording purposes there is no major advantage with using EtherSound over MADI
EtherSound becomes more of an advantage when creating larger Audio networks as all I/O routing can be controlled remotely from a laptop on the EtherSound network.
Below is a link to our american distributor:
https://www.allen-heath.com/distributors/distributor.asp?v=229
Hope this helps
Regards
Sam A&H
Audio quality is the same for all solutions, since it’s just tranport of digital data so… price, connectivity and ease-of-use matter.
Ethersound: 64 channels of 24-bit/48 kHz PCM audio, standard Ethernet cables and components.
+: standard network cable and components.
-: more expensive interfaces, due to the licensing.
MADI: The MADI format is capable of transmitting up to 64 audio channels (at standard sample rates of 44.1 or 48 kHz) on a standard 75 Ohms coaxial cable or an optical fibre cable. The 64-Channel mode was introduced officially in 2001. It allows for a maximum sample rate of 48 kHz + ca. 1%, corresponding to 32 channels at 24-bit / 96 kHz
+: less expensive interfaces.
-: coaxial cable (or optical) and not standard network cable and components…
OTHER (cheaper) solution: get the mini multi out card and use 3 times ADAT (so 24* 24-bit 48kHz)
If longer cablerun needed…
route the ADAT through this ADAT mulicore system: https://www.appsys.ch/
front: https://www.appsys.ch/images/stories/adx32a_adx64a/front_1600.jpg
dealer: https://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/CHF/Application-Systems-ADX-32A-/art-REC0007400-000
(only minus: this also uses a layer1 or less protocol so direct cablerun needed, not hubs or routers can be used… cfr. my recent topic)
+: very cheap, a quite standard cheap PCI ADAT card an be used in the recording computer. (https://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdsp_9652.php). Audio quality remains the same.
-: uh… direct cablerun needed, and the tiny ADAT optical cables of course 
Wouter
Thanks for explaining it to me so well
I’m thinking MADI is my best solution as I want to run audio out.
Do I need to run a separate cable for word clock or will i be ok with just the in and our cables?
iLive T112/IDR48
Hi Muzikant,
If you’re not too much under time pressure I would wait for “Dante”. I think this is a 1000 times more interesting than MADI, which seems to be a pretty old-fashioned standard when you look at this:
Yamaha just started marketing this 2 days ago, Allen&Heath next?
Wouter
