I have created 3 stereo matrixes for Band, Vocals, Extras, that I will be sending to broadcast (logic DAW) via Dante as a direct out. How would I set the matrix to be pre fader/post processing to the direct out, so that I dont have to worry about the fader being at unity?
Why a matrix and not an aux?
I guess I could? Hereâs an example of my flow:
Kick + Snare + Overheads > Drum Group
Snare > Drum Verb Aux
Kick + Snare > Drum Parallel Compression Group
Drum Group + Drum Verb Aux + Parallel Group > Band Matrix
Band Matrix > Dante Patch > Broadcast
So, I have things in groups not auxes, so when I attenuate the drums, it doesnât send more signal to the group or parallel and compress harder. I want it the same level the whole time feeding Waves, etc.
Matrix has no âdirectâ out. It is already an output.
Pre- / post-switching is done in the same way as on other sends.
Direct outs work with channels, not busses. You simply need to route the actual âMix Outâ through Dante to the DAW. So when you are on the routing screen, you arenât going to select the âIP Direct Outâ tab on the right side, but instead select the âMix Outâ tab instead. This will show all of your busses (including Matrix) and you can route the output of those busses through the Dante I/O card (which you would select on the top of the page). The output of these busses will be post fader however. So the signal being sent to the Dante card will be dependant on the Matrixâs fader level.
You will have to create âduplicateâ matrixes (one for "in room " use and one for DAW use) if you need to have different volume control over both use cases. Which is really the entire point of matrixes in the first place - to have independant volume and processing for various outputs.
I thought a matrixâs output had the option to select pre/post fader, post EQ, post delay (etc, the pick point or tap point) for itâs output. Like a routing/patch thing that most consoles have.
It seems like there should be a way to set specific direct outs to be post insert but pre fader on the mix out page. in the patching window of the IO page.
Thanks for the help!
No, it doesnât.
Output busses have no direct outs, it makes no sense. They are outputs.
The send to the matrix can be pre or post fader.
But that is not the matrix itself.
Your request makes no sense at all.
Okay got it. Thanks. I will go a different route.
I guess a combined âsend to broadcastâ AUX would be the best thing. That said, there is a reason broadcast and room usually have seperate desks. 
I think the confusion here stems from the fact that you are using the term âdirect outâ when the term you are actually looking for is âpick pointâ or in the case of A&H âFollow Faderâ etc.
That being said, this is indeed a job for a matrix. Especially on dLive since you can send channels and groups to a matrix like you can with an aux. If you decide to use an auxâŚI would still stuff it in a matrix since it can be really useful to have it there in some scenarios.
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Got it! For anyone who finds this thread with similar confusion - Matrix and Aux will work. I ran into issues with using a matrix because I use Waves and parallel compressors as groups, and my FX are setup as auxes too (Waves returning to inputs). So with the matrix i was hearing some phasey latency things at broadcast. When I routed it all to an Aux, no issues.
The main solution is to set your level on your matrix or aux, and then remove it from the surface so your levels canât be muted or changed. Thats the hack I guess.
Well at least in A&H world, the âpick pointâ is a âdirect outâ specific setting. In other words, the only âpick pointsâ that exist are for the direct outs which means they are very much related to each other.
TBH, pick points for mixes are independent of the direct out pick point.
Every aux has its own setting.
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