MIDI control of SQ7 from qLab

SQ SQ Troubleshooting
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I have an SQ7 running firmware 1.6.1. I’ve networked it to qLab so I can send midi commands. I usually only need to mute or unmute a channel or change a scene. I’m going through the A&H midi controller app. I can send control change message (4 actually to make a full NRPN message) and I can mute channel 1 but I can’t unmute it. Tried everything I can think of. Can’t get sysex to work either or a CC translated note on/off message.

I can change scenes no problem so my current work around is to have a scene that has ip1 unmuted. Then I can mute it and restore the scene to unmute it. This works as long as all I care about is 1 mic.

Any ideas?

thanksI have an SQ7 running firmware 1.6.1. I’ve networked it to qLab so I can send midi commands. I usually only need to mute or unmute a channel or change a scene. I’m going through the A&H midi controller app. I can send control change message (4 actually to make a full NRPN message) and I can mute channel 1 but I can’t unmute it. Tried everything I can think of. Can’t get sysex to work either or a CC translated note on/off message.

I can change scenes no problem so my current work around is to have a scene that has ip1 unmuted. Then I can mute it and restore the scene to unmute it. This works as long as all I care about is 1 mic.

Any ideas?

thanks

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Please share the messages you are sending to your SQ and how you’re sending them from QLab.

You mention sending 4 CC messages, but if sending NRPN, you could be using the SysEX function to send the whole message at once.

You could also try the ‘toggle’ message (rather than separate mute on/off).

Another option, as you’re using the A&H MIDI Control app, would be to use its CC Translator option, which would mean sending only a single note on/off from QLab to control mutes. This is explained in the following article - https://support.allen-heath.com/hc/en-gb/articles/41264039501969-Allen-Heath-MIDI-Control-Help

Thanks,

Keith

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Hi,

Thanks for responding. Sending a group message from qLab 5 of:

B0 63 00

B0 62 00

B0 06 00

B0 26 01

Mutes channel 1 just fine. When I send the same message but change only the last one to be

B0 26 00

Nothing happens.

I am able to change scenes so I can record a scene unmuted, fire the mute cue, then fire the scene change. Not terrible for a single mic.

I did get the toggle to work - that was nice.

I tried sysex but none of the commands would work. I tried with both the 07 beginning and F7 ending and without them (qLab says not to add them because it does automatically)

I also tried changing to interpreter and sending just Note On/Off messages, but I got nothing to work there either.

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Just a plug asking A&H to please, please implement OSC and make everyone’s life so much easier.

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Absolutely

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Hi Keith: piggy-backing on this response here rather than opening a new ticket: I’m looking for the definitive Parameter Number to address channel mutes on the Qu-series of boards.

I found documentation for the (newer) QU-5/6/7 series that looks like these should work:
B0 63 3D B0 62 00 B0 06 00 B0 26 00 (mute off/mic on)
B0 63 3D B0 62 00 B0 06 00 B0 26 01 (mute on/mic off)
(i.e. no particular parameter selection in the 2nd and 3rd CC triples, mute state value in last triplet)

But I’m not sure if this is working for the older models with v1.9+ firmware.

It seems unlikely that that mute parameter has been left out of the otherwise consistent NRPN implementation, but the MIDI documentation refers only to Note On messages for channel mutes.

I am developing a ShowPlayer app that remote controls mute states on digital mixers and am looking to create a protocol template for A&H users. Note On is a possibility, but it requires Midi channel strip setup on the user side which could be avoided by finding the right parameter for Mute. Any solid info on this?