Please A&H, we need more EQ options

So no more “major update” in your opinion?

@RS

at the speed AH moves I would expect the next major update to be a brand new product line
which was architected and designed to be cheaper to build, easier to upgrade, and powerful enough to do anything if you would pay enough to get it sooner leaving the only hurdle the manpower to crank out new features people will pay for

So no more “major update” in your opinion?

I have no idea… but over two years for a firmware update is a very long time…
the last major iLive release was 1.9 and was introduced over 2 years after 1.8

Maybe it’s a strategy related issue?
Let’s assume dlives end of life is not so far away - it get’s one additional update and thats it. Then digico takes over the dlive segment and A&H focusses on mixers below the dlive?

Why are you thinking DigiCo is relevant to this?

It would not make sense and would be bad move for end of life to occur in the midst of C-19 or not too long after things start bouncing back.

I think we will see a good 1.9 update and then a new product or some type of hardware upgrade package before 2.0 if the average major update takes 2+ years.

I don’t think Digico is relevant to this, dlive is the ideal mix of price and performance, you would have to pay significantly more for an equivalent product, would not make sense for them to make a play for this segment

Digico suggestions are probably because (as you probably know) both A&H and Digico are owned by the same company.
We’ve already seen some crossover of technology with DX168 style stage boxes, ME cards etc appearing in the Digico ecosystem.

Having gone though this process once with iLive (although I still have them and they still go out occasionally) I’m not looking forward to the prospect of the same happening with dLive.
Maybe when it gets to that time we’ll get lucky and there will be a dLive update like happened with the DSP card on iLive and Quantum engines in Digico land as Brian suggests, here’s hoping.

On the subject of firmware updates I’d rather see more frequent smaller updates (following modern iterative/incremental software development processes) rather than 2 year+ waits.
I get the economics of not being able to devote R&D man hours to a product when it gets to the time that revenue streams from sales of a product are diminished. Possibly continued development assuming there’s still horsepower available in the mixracks could be funded by paid-for updates once that stage is reached although again that would eat into sales of the new replacement product. Why does everything have to be so complicated? :frowning:

I find that
DiGiCo - A&H - Calrec - SSL - KLANG
are owned by somebody but cannot find a company who owns them.
James Gordon seems to be CEO of whatever it is though.

Do you know the actual company name?

https://www.audiotonix.com/

The name of the Group is Audiotonix.
There is absolutely no plan for Digico to take over the dLive segment, nor for dLive to be EOL any time soon.
Development will continue beyond V1.9.

Thanks Nicola, that’s reassuring :slight_smile:
There are a lot of us out here that have been eagerly awaiting the goodies hinted at in 1.9 for a long time now and several suggested target dates have been missed, some by a wide margin.
I understand the policy of keeping things under wraps about development in the works but when that development appears to stall for so much time speculation is bound to increase.
I guess as Homer said in the Doritos commercial - “Be still my pet, the hour is nigh” :slight_smile: (was that really 23 years ago? :-s)

Thanks MJC for that link to the company over AH et al.

Note to AH and wordpress.
The image from MJCElectronics was blocking the message from NicalaA&H which was next on the page.
There is usually space so the next message can be seen. But not this time.

Development will continue beyond V1.9.

first of all I would like to see a 1.9 release soon

Strange, I don’t see an image at all just the word Home as a hyperlink.
I tried to edit that as it didn’t look very descriptive to me but got trapped by the usual anti spam features so I don’t think the edit worked.
I wish it was easier to edit posts, I’m always mistyping or wanting to add something.

the discussion about a change to the “A&H Digital Community” should pop out to a dedicated thread… I think

@ MJCElectronics:
none of us is without fault :wink:
but the following procedure helps when creating a post:

  • write
  • read through again
  • then send it
    :wink:

EDIT:
I am adding this sentence via the “Edit” function after I had already sent the post. So you can still intervene afterwards :wink:

and to A&H:
please give us 1.9, the current situation is bad, so we need something to have at least a little fun with.

@Wolfgang

How?

I have never been able to edit a message after it was sent.

I can always edit, then I get to the spam check screen that asks me a reason and gives me a little maths problem to prove I’m human.
Fill out that screen every time but it only ever allows/commits the edit sometimes.
I’m sure it’s not pilot error, I’d hope I can cope with a little simple addition :slight_smile:
Maybe I’m on a blacklist 'cos I edit way too often, I do have a static public IP so that would do it.

@wwolfgang I do go through that process several times but often miss a typo or want to add something, getting older sucks!
On this occasion the URL appeared in the post before submitting but was changed to “Home” after so I wanted to add something descriptive.

I feel I’ve dragged this thread way off topic and in more than one direction, sorry folks.

True but we already have 3 pages of folks complaining about the EQ.

it started with @tor saying it does not sound ‘nice’ to his golden ears.
I still say the audience does not give a crap if it is not truly atrocious sound,
which means stop distortion, keep the SPL down under the legal limits of your venue/country/media,
and keep the DR limited so it is all easily heard.

And if it is not live they will fix the EQ for themselves on their devices so you are opening peanuts with a sledge hammer. s

More EQs wont fix anything that is truly necessary. The available EQs are more than capable of doing the job.

A poor worker blames his tools.

I’ve got to admit I’ve never had a problem with the EQ but then I don’t tend to use much anyway.
I’m a big believer in having decent sources through top quality appropriately selected and positioned mics and then my EQ is flat on most channels.
Obviously you’re not always in control of the source but if it sounds awful going in then no amount of EQ is gonna fix it and you’re right about the audience, mostly they only care if it sounds like complete crap and that’s most often down to the source if you’re doing everything else right.
If you’re desperate for specific EQs you can always buy a Waves card and insert your plug-in of choice.
I’d rather see 1.9 and any following firmware introducing features that we can’t get another way.