QU-16 New Digital mixer - BROCHURE!

https://www.allen-heath.com/UK/Products/pages/ProductDetails.aspx?filename=DocumentMaster/Qu-16/Qu-16%20Brochure%20AP9191%20Web.pdf

Now start drooling!

Cheers

Richard Howey

Audio Dynamite Ltd

IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72/Mixpad,Tweak,

Dual M-Dante/DVS, 17"MBP/Logic 9/Custom Mackie Control

GLD Stagebox is compatible … great … how bout the iLive Box ?

IDR48 & T112, iPad, Belkin Wireless, Dante, Lenovo i5, Samplitude ProX

if you connect a 24 channel stagebox from GLD …got 24 channel mix ? or remain on 16 ?? Saw there are 3 Layers … 17-24 on custom base ?

IDR48 & T112, iPad, Belkin Wireless, Dante, Lenovo i5, Samplitude ProX

Right, Musikhof : not for ILive !

Kein Glück mein freund … und ich auch nicht !

The brochure says that the stereo ins are also able to patch to dSnake, so you have a 22/12 system, local or remote.

Specs say 1-16, ST 1-3 for dsnake so may be two unused inputs on the stagebox. Mix 1-10, L/R on the outputs.

Sounds like the custom layer is just selectable from the two layers.

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Originally posted by Musikhof

if you connect a 24 channel stagebox from GLD …got 24 channel mix ? or remain on 16 ?? Saw there are 3 Layers … 17-24 on custom base ?

IDR48 & T112, iPad, Belkin Wireless, Dante, Lenovo i5, Samplitude ProX


Scott

iDR 32

iDR D-Out

MMO

Lenova T61, M90, iPad2

quote:
Originally posted by andreher

Right, Musikhof : not for ILive !

Kein Glück mein freund … und ich auch nicht !


How nice would it be to be able to buy a software extension for it to be able to function as a iLive controller…

Wouter

IDR32, R72, Dante, Mixpad

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Originally posted by woutert
quote:
Originally posted by andreher

Right, Musikhof : not for ILive !

Kein Glück mein freund … und ich auch nicht !


How nice would it be to be able to buy a software extension for it to be able to function as a iLive controller…

Wouter

IDR32, R72, Dante, Mixpad

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I could not agree more heartily Woutert!

IDR32

Dante card

Macbook pro 17

Ipad2 + mixpad

Aiport express

Somebody checked out the Qu-App ? Is it free or on sale ? Sold my iPad … still no support for Android Tabs :frowning_face:

IDR48 & T112, iPad, Belkin Wireless, Dante, Lenovo i5, Samplitude ProX

22 Channels should be enough for anything in small venues… cool … sad to have no connection possibility to ilive … no card slot for ACE or any other. Wish we could have the USB-Recording function in next iLive OS :smiley: … other way around, having iLive FX in Qu and GLD does work - so why not having these nice features in top console ??? Maybe they can build a “Bridge-Controller” from d-snake to ACE … THIS would be a perfect tool for cross-selling all AH consoles for any given use.

…just dreaming ahead… :smiley:

IDR48 & T112, iPad, Belkin Wireless, Dante, Lenovo i5, Samplitude ProX

I understand where some of ya are coming from with the ‘wouldn’t it be great if it was just a cheaper ilive with ace and card slots’ but let’s be real, the fact it has a dSnake port is even amazing. The add-in cards for iLive and GLD cost more than half the price of the Qu-16, and the most basic mixrack costs 2.5x the console…

iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad

College

quote:
Originally posted by tk2k

…The add-in cards for iLive and GLD cost more than half the price of the Qu-16, and the most basic mixrack costs 2.5x the console…


Who is talking about add-in cards? There’s a network port, that and software is what it takes… OK, no local audio in that case, but I surely wouldn’t mind.

I even didn’t even say that the software has to be free… :smiley:

Mixracks are indeed more expensive than a QU-16. Seems only logical. What’s your point?

Wouter

IDR32, R72, Dante, Mixpad

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Yes Wouter. IDR <> GLD incompatibility is not very “fair”. I have buy a IDR-48 WITHOUT desk for only ONE application with Laptop + Editor (about 50 performances / year). A very little Desk with a few I/O channels would be fine.

I also use Yamaha (LS9, MC7) for other applications.

I was on Wednesday in Frankfurt (Musikmesse) : in the category / price of the QU-16 is the Behringer X32 a better choice for little jobs. I’ve pre-ordered the X32PRODUCER version.

It’s a pity for … A&H.

I am having trouble even understanding the iLive’s place in the A&H product lineup these days. With all the new boards coming out why would I spend more money on an iLive for 90% of the same features for less money with GLD and now this new mixer? Hell, you can even get into the Midas game (PRO 1) for 10k (it costs 7k just for an R72!). And it seems the hardware is compatible with all the new boards/racks and not iLive. If A&H thinks I’m going to continue to pay a premium just for the iLive name, they are sorely mistaken.

I’m not getting it.

quote:
Originally posted by jgrooms

I am having trouble even understanding the iLive’s place in the A&H product lineup these days.


With zero inside knowledge of A&H, I would bet pretty hard they’re well aware of this

iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad

College

I for one hope they continue with the iLive series. I have owned a GLD-80 system and own several iLive systems and suspect I will grab a QU-16 if it performs as advertised.

For me the iLive provides something that the GLD does not do as well… scalability and redundancy. GLD also requires you to carry the mixer to use even if you only need 1 channel.

I can use any part or piece of my iLives to mix and match: no mixer, single mixer, side car mixer, dig split, dual rack etc… I can fly with a single rack and mix a show on just a laptop and still have all of my processing. Or go in a venue that wont support FOH console, not that I like that, but it is an option. Not to mention some of the price is for the R&D like the editor software.

With iLive, I find it easier to have redundancy knowing with 2 mix racks I have 2 systems that can easily be expanded or provide identical processing redundancy even if you loose the controllers.

GLD is more expensive to have mission critical redundancy (if you need it). You must have 2 GLD-80 to start with, then deal with expansions as needed.

So I still feel iLive very much has a place, and looks like other vendors like that concept as they are creating DPS based rack mixers.

I think these options are great because you have choices to get what you need based on what you do…

just my .02 cents

T112, T80, iDR48 (2), iDR16 all w/M-DANTE, PL10, MixPads, Editor

MacBook Pro, Mac Mini,PC

Lion/Logic Pro/PT10/Reaper

All latest versions/firmware

Shure clarocque.

I have also owned an IDR-48 only for these possibilities to run without mixer.

Let’s now wait and see the capacities of the Behringer X32-RACK / X32-CORE.

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I can use any part or piece of my iLives to mix and match: no mixer, single mixer, side car mixer, dig split, dual rack etc... I can fly with a single rack and mix a show on just a laptop and still have all of my processing. Or go in a venue that wont support FOH console, not that I like that, but it is an option. Not to mention some of the price is for the R&D like the editor software.

I like these aspects as well. I just don’t understand the segmentation and non-compatibility in the product line up. Love um or hate um, Behringers X32 product line provides a cohesive solution and interoperability from a rack only to their full 32 channel board. Same with the Midas PRO series, everything is compatibile and you match the architecture to your needs. Not to mention the dropping price points.

Instead we are see investments from Allen and Heath in the GLD series now this Q series (both not compatible with iLive-their flagship product and where WE have all invested money!). I am not complaining really, I just don’t understand.

I am a little curious about the positioning in the low end market as well. I just watched the CX April news and they mentioned a price of around $3800 in Australia which would put it squarely in price competition with the Presonus 32 and the X32 but of which have 32 channels rather than 16.

Now, I really like the feature set of the Qu-16 particularly the buttons down the right for the sends - something I wish I could do on the iLive preferably with a set of MIDI buttons or a controller.

But, sitting here, two thirds of the way through implementing a standardisation for our smaller church campus venues on Presonus 16s I am feeling a little bit like its too little too late.

However, I look forward to being proven wrong and seeing a proliferation of Allen and Heath kit through the world again :smiley:

Duncan Whitcombe

@Dnxmirrorsounds

Mirror Sounds & metrochurch

Perth, Australia

T112, iDR48x2

www.mirrorsounds.com.au

www.metrochurch.org.au

Has any one played with the QU16 at a trade show? If so, any idea what firmware it is up to?

I ask because I see the QU-16 manual is on A&H site, but a lot of the features are listed as not available. Many that were advertised.

I have one on order based on the promotions, but some key features advertised sorta look like they may not be available yet.

Please Note

This User Guide refers to first release Qu-16 firmware version V1.0. Several

features are not supported by this release. Please refer to the Allen & Heath

web site for the latest version of firmware and this user guide. For more details

read the Release Notes available with the firmware.

Features not supported by firmware V1.0:

#61623; USB key Scene and mixer data transfer

#61623; User libraries for FX and processing

#61623; Scene Recall Filters and Safes

#61623; User assignable Custom layer

#61623; Qu-Pad wireless remote app for iPad

#61623; dSNAKE port for remote audio connection

#61623; ME personal mixer compatibility

#61623; User permissions

Note – USB streaming is compatible with a MAC computer only. Windows PC

is not supported.

T112, T80, iDR48 (2), iDR16 all w/M-DANTE, PL10, MixPads, Editor

MacBook Pro, Mac Mini,PC

Lion/Logic Pro/PT10/Reaper

All latest versions/firmware