I’m sorry, but I can’t hear any modulation effect or anything like that here, apart from a nice clear plate reverb.
And I’m really very sensitive to pitch fluctuations.
So A&H should comment on what kind of modulation they’ve incorporated into all their CQ-FXs, which some people complain about and others can’t even hear.
Also because this topic has been around for at least a year now. @Keith: Would it be possible to help and enlighten us, please?
Totally agree with you on this.
All I hear is a really nice sounding reverb, that I now want to try and emulate since I always struggle with finding settings to work to get a nice reverb for various situations.
Thanks for your confirmations.
Unfortunately, neither @Keith nor any other A&Hs have responded.
But I’d now assuming that @mpalmer24 also has the same “pseudo-problem” as @davesharp: the unintentional daisy-chaining of two different FX.
Since in the CQ’s FX mixes, all inputs, including the FX returns, are always visible, it’s tempting to open them, even if you don’t understand the purpose.
Normally, the three red-marked knobs should be closed (Off) in each of the four FX mixes.
Modulation on the reverb tail is used for some units/settings, though it’s definitely not the same sound and nowhere near as extreme as if the reverb were routed through a modulation FX unit.
There is no modulation on any of the SPACE VERB settings
The modulation with the most depth (i.e. most extreme) is used on the EASY VERB ‘Percussion’ setting
Regarding pre-delay as mentioned earlier in this thread:
Gold Plate and Cathedral settings have the longest pre-delay times in SPACE VERB
Vocal Echo and String Slap have very long pre-delay times in EASY VERB
Some settings have no pre-delay at all (e.g. Forever Plate and Vocal Intimate)
The idea behind all the CQ FX is to just play around and see what works best, we really wanted (and still want) to keep it as simple as possible. I’m not saying we’d never have units with more control, but it wasn’t the intention for CQ.
Thanks, @Keith, for the explanation (even if users had to wait over a year for it).
I, for one, would never have expected A&H to add a modulation effect, which isn’t even mentioned anywhere and can’t even be turned off, to reverb effects with their already limited control options.
In that respect, it was foolish of me to practically defend A&H and search for the cause of a problem that was deliberately designed as an illogical feature.
So now I see the corresponding complaints as justified.
Modulation on the reverb tail is very common and not really audible as a modulation effect as described in the original post.
If you have access to any of our mixers with SMR (Qu, SQ, Avantis, dLive) load any preset then check through the expert pages to see that almost all of them include some modulation on the tail.
I know, and that would how it should be, but if CQ users and even musicians are complaining about it, then they’re obviously very audible and annoying.
Unfortunately, no one has yet recorded an example of them and uploaded them here for us to listen to.
Only in this way could one determine whether this is a modulation that also occurs naturally in the room through overlays - or whether it’s a modulation that renders any reverb effect unusable.