Seconded! I think it’s mind boggling that a $1000+ mixer does not have full control over its fx units. Where is Pre-delay, where is decay time, where is stereo width, so many crucial tools that are not there.
Allen and Heath folks, I see the design intention must have been catering towards the growing non-professional audio field, but I find it hard to believe both cannot be catered to! Advanced → simple mode toggle button. Hope to see a change soon or I may have to sell because this makes a difference for small events and simple in-ear rigs where this would otherwise be a perfect solution with awesome pre’s
I acquired the CQ 18t as a recording alternative to the Zoom L12 and as an upgrade to the A & H Zed r16…
As an upgrade to the Zed R16 the idea was to not have to carry outboard reverb FX and outboard Graphic Eq…
I was disappointed to find that the Rev FX all have a modulation component that interferes with my guitar sound in a way which makes the FX unusable.
If A&H could include a switch function for modulation on/of along with a pre-delay adjust function I could finally move my outboard rack out of the truck and into retirement !!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE A&H COULD WE HAVE THIS INCLUDED IN THE NEXT FIRMWARE UPGRADE…
Would save fuel and help the environment if I could leave my outboard rack at home !!
What kind of modulation do you hear ?
I mostly use easyverb and it is sharp clean to my ear.
The other also are good to me.
Can you send and audio exemple ?
I use all rev in shared mode.
Indeed, the Insert mode is ugly. But that is not the way Rev (an Delay) are supposed to be used.
When I’m using the CQ verbs live in my solo acoustic show there is a chorousing type of modulation on the guitar verb which makes the guitar sound very “chimey” …
Not so noticeable on vocal but extremely present on guitar…
Makes it sound cheap and un-natural..
I did have an idea to ask A&H if the CQ software would support eg a “pay for” bundle of reverbs similar to those on the QU24..
They’d make extra cash from this..
I’d be prepared to pay say £50 for a bundle of “pay for” reverbs, with an option to turn any modulation on or off, that could be downloaded to the CQ…
Thanks Frenchie
I would also love more FX control options, especially a Pre-Fader send option. I was stumped during a sound check trying to figure out why none of my input sends were hitting the FX units. I eventually realized that the sends are Post-Fader, and cannot be changed to Pre-Fader. I like to use reverbs as shared units with Pre-Fader sends, I’m not a fan of Post-Fader sends or inserted reverbs.
Having the option to name and color FX units would be a huge help too, as they are the only channels I can’t customize the name/color of. If I am using multiple FX units, and just have the fader menu open, I have to remember which unit is which, what it is, and what is being sent to it.
I’ve been using my CQ-18t for 10 months now, and the lack of FX customizability has been the only negative of the console. Besides this, the console has been amazing for small gigs and performed wonderfully.
What setting do you have for FX send ?
Mine are generally as following:
-FX general level at 0dB
-level of channel input to FX around -10 dB
-and FX level to LR at demand during the show.
I’m using easy verb space verb and echo verb…
The modulation seems to be less pronounced in the echo verb but still too prominent to make it useful on guitar..
Both easy verb and and space verb have a most definite and prominent “chorus” type modulation going on when put through an out-front pa and onstage monitors…
Thanks Frenchie..
The settings I’m using on say the space verb are:-
Large Hall, decay time at 12 o’clock, any of the effects assist options but mainly “crispy”..tails on…all in shared mode.
Would be nice to have a Pre delay time option and a mod on/off function..even with some remedial control to tailor some basic functions such as depth, top/bottom ..alas..No !!
give us a "pay for Bundle..I have 50 quid in me mitts just for Keith at A&H…!
I remember we discussed about your “modulation” problem once before also here:
Even back then, I asked also for an audio sample so that we could understand what you meant.
I found a review of the CQ online, and the author included an audio sample of a “Guitar with Plate Reverb”, where I can’t hear any of the modulations you described.
Also, keep in mind that even with the CQ, you can probably link two effects in series, or create an effect feedback.
Check if any FX returns are open in any FX mixes.
The user guide seems to confirm my theory.
(Except for the fact that, according to this graphic, you can’t actually create FX feedback because you can’t mix the FX return back into the same FX.)
But you can, for example, mix FX 3 (Chorus) into the selected FX 1 (easyVERB), as shown red in the graphic.
This might unintentionally create a reverb with a chorus effect.
Or also vice versa.
I wonder if he’s running both channels into a single speaker or into a mono sound system? it could be that the stereo reverbs aren’t phase-coherent and he’s hearing that difference when it’s summed to mono.
