Routing to Direct Outs for Surround Monitoring

The firmware reference guide can be found here: https://www.allen-heath.com/hardware/sq/sq-5/resources/

If I am following your situation correctly, you have all of the inputs/sources set up the way you want and all you need to figure out is how to output the audio at this point.

Page 23 of the current firmware reference guide starts the section on routing. It talks about how to route the “listen buss” (ie the PAFL or “solo” buss) as well as “mix outputs” (which are the outputs of other busses like auxes, groups, matrixes, etc). It should explain how to set up everything.

I saw that and I have read the manual. I am reading the very page you sent as we speak. And I guess you are right that I don’t understand THIS direct out. On an analog board, I could simply send my signal to an aux or FX send and that signal would come out of the desk wherever I wanted it.

This page shows processing and volume on a direct out. But I’m not seeing a direction and that’s what’s causing the confusion. In the Direct out source window, seeing Post Preamp or HPF doesn’t tell me where my signal is going.

I sent the signal into 9/10 and out of Aux 1. If I went to aux 1 and saw an option to send that to Direct out 3, that would be clear. If I went to MTX 2 and it showed it going to Direct ot 3. That would be clear.

On a Mackie analog desk, you have a solo or ALT/MUTE button for every channel. If there’s nothing conected to the Alt outputs when you push that button, your channel is muted. If you have something connected to that output, like a monitor, you get sound. That is very clear.

I’m going in circles looking for a “clear exit.”

The drop-down defines the tap point in the input channel signal chain from where the signal is routed to an output. This output contains only the direct channel signal, e.g. direct out.

That is done in the I/O screen. The direct out is the same as on the Mackie’s VLZ16 first 8 channels.

Thanks a lot for that. I was using Ver. 1.0.1. So the page numbers weren’t matching.

I have my Local input sockets patched 1 -24

I have my Local output sockets patched 1 - 12 to the direct outs.

My stereo cassette source is coming into Inputs 9/10.

I want it to come out of direct outs 5/6 (side monitors) and NOT the main stereo out bus. WHERE/HOW do I route the signal from 9/10 to make that happen?

I have my Local input sockets patched 1 -24

I have my Local output sockets patched 1 - 12 to the direct outs.

My stereo cassette source is coming into Inputs 9/10

I want it to come out of direct outs 5/6 (side monitors) and NOT the main stereo out bus. WHERE/HOW do I route the signal from 9/10 to make that happen?

Let us use the term local outputs.
These are no direct outs. See above, similar to the first 8 channels in Mackie VLZ desks, every input channel of the SQ has a direct out. You can freely patch them to local sockets, SLink sockets or USB sockets.

To use the wrong terms makes it hard to understand what you mean.

The mixes could be stereo or mono and you can switch them between group or aux mode.
We still miss that information.

So I have to PATCH inputs 9/10 to Local Outputs 5/6 to make that source come out of those monitors?

@keyplayer:
I actually wanted to suggest already in my first post that you upload your show or scene file somewhere.
Then someone could take a look at it, see where the problem is and correct your patching/routing.

NOOOOOO! Don’t do that! It will connect the input direct to the output and you have no level control except the socket gain.

That could damage your speakers!!!

Can we get pictures? Routing screen of channel 9? Please? As a start!

Maybe it is a good idea to connect the app and make screenshots from there.
Or send the showfile. As already requested with personal message 1h ago.

Patching is wrong.
You’re sending nothing through the channels.

This is exactly what I mean with “use the right terms, always”.

I don’t understand your screenshot looks the same as mine for inputs. What’s the difference?

Moment please, I struggle with the pictures

On the left side of the page, you have selected the Outputs/Direct Output” tab. If your intent is to send the output of the aux busses, you need to choose the “Outputs/Mix Output” tab instead. Assign aux mixes 1-12 to local sockets 1-12.

As Steffen has mentioned several times, direct outputs are used only to send audio from specific INPUTS out of the console. All other audio paths (like auxes, groups, Main LR, matrixes, etc) are routed in other ways and they do not use direct outputs.

So that screenshot tells me you currently have 6 mono auxes and at least 5 stereo auxes set up (auxes 7-11) but you probably have 6 stereo busses set up. This may or may not be what you need. I don’t think it is correct because I assume your 12 surround sound outputs need to be mono.

Therefore, you may need to go into the console’s “mix stereo” setup screen and change the overall buss configuration to use more mono busses. The image below is taken from the firmware reference manual (page 86) and likely won’t match your buss setup exactly.

What are you using auxes 1-6 for? Are they part of this surround sound setup or are they serving another purpose? Currently however, if you hook a speaker up to local output 1, you should hear the output of Aux 1. If you hook a speaker up to local output 2, you should hear the output of Aux 2, etc, etc, etc. (Assuming the fader for each aux is turned up).

Currently you have auxes 1-6 routed to the local outputs 1-6. Assuming all of the auxes are being used for this surround sound setup, you will need adjust the routing to ensure all 12 auxes are output to local outputs (1-12).

Yes better!

Are you in front of the console?

Try some workflow tricks please!

Press the Reset button and tip one fader slightly up or down! See what happens! That will help you later setting up the mixes.