I want to “split” my Qu16 half for FOH and half for monitors. For example channels 1-8 to FOH and 9-16 for monitors with different eq,comp etc.
Can i split those signals coming from DI’s with Y cables?
Workflow examples:
Dynamic mic → XLR cable → Y cable before mixer → splitting to ch 1 & 9
Guitar with active DI → XLR cable → Y cable before mixer → splitting to ch 2 & 10
The DI’s are phantom powered so i will engage phantom on both channels? (example ch 1 & 9)
Is this method of splitting appropriate or i will have signal loss, and downgrade the quality of my signals?
I do a similar thing when I go out on PA hire duties with a colleague of mine, he uses an Behringer X32 for FOH and I use my QU-SB for side of stage monitoring duties. To enable us to achieve this we use two Behringer MS8000 8 way mic splitters that we have rack mounted.
Multi-core (stage box) into the splitters, one feed goes to the X32 and the other to the QU-SB, but I think from memory when dealing with phantom power, only the FOH needs to be activated for the said channels, not both desks. We split in the traditional way, the FOH takes the direct line and applies phantom power and the monitor desk takes the other line that is via transformer.
The below YouTube clip from Behringer actually does the above in reverse, but either way works (Pre or Post transformer).
It leaves FOH to concentrate on FOH and the same for side of stage, also, you’re not sharing the gain stage. in that I mean, if for argument’s sake you’re performing FOH and monitors from the same desk, whether that be the QU-16, 24 or 32, you are limited with the amount of gain you have to use at stage side if the FOH desk’s channel gains (trims) are set very conservatively.
For a couple of reasons this is what prompted me to look into doing our PA jobs differently with better results, although with the X32 you can split the gain stages, but I never really got on with the X32 app, found it very clunky and slow to navigate from one mix to the other. The QU app is far more slicker and faster.
On the pictures below you can see the two MS8000 splitters and the QU-SB.
I want to avoid active/passive mic splitters as it’s extra gear with extra cost, cables etc.
Surely your solution is much better than Y cables, but i want a simpler setup.
I use one mixer (qu16) both as FOH and monitor as i don’t need more channels. I just unassign “monitor” channels from FOH (LR) and that’s it. (i’m using wired IEM’s)
I don’t like either X32 app is very frustrating.
The only thing i wish from “Santa Clause” is the feature to link mono channels to stereo but A&H probably stops the updates to QU family.
You can link adjacent channels, but I think you’re talking about Mixes. If so, you can simply use DCA to control two Mixes as one. I think there are enough DCA’s available for the way you’re using your Qu.
As to phantom power, once the device is powered from one channel of the Y-split it will work. It is receiving power. It is not necessary to power it twice.
Here are two more pics to illustrate panning using channel levels. Say you want to use Mix1/Mix2 as your L/R stereo program. Set the L (Mix1) level of the desired channel a bit lower than the R (Mix2) and the result is the sound “panned” to the right. You can easily audition the effect/result using headphones to set up the desired balance. A few tries and it should make sense.
Above shows R channel (Mix2). Here’s the L channel (Mix1) setting. These are just for reference. You’ll determine the ratio of the levels in the headphones. I tried to attach both pics to one response but something is blocking that.
@dick rees
Thank you very very much i understand the way you “pan” and i will try it!
Althought the “link” feature of mono mixes to stereo is essential for me and as a have seen is a request of many users of Qu family but unfortunatelly no response from A&H
Thank you again!
The capability you desire can be achieved with the desk as is as I have just demonstrated. Personally, there are other, more desirable features I’d rather A&H spend their time on rather than simply making tasks such as yours a tad simpler when there is an existing solution.
is the feature to link mono channels to stereo but A&H probably stops the updates to QU family.
