In the sq6 mixer there would be the possibility in the equalizer of a channel, to hide the waveform of the eq and to leave only the parameters?
Maybe with a button to show and hide the waveform.
It would be a very useful feature
Thanks Alessio
Can you explain how that would be useful?
It would be very useful to be able to equalize a channel without seeing the waveform that comes out but only the parameters.
It would be like seeing the equalizer of an analog mixer channel. Sometimes seeing the waveform that comes out you get scared and you want to change it and make a wrong eq but with a more beautiful waveform.
It would be very useful for me to be able to see only the parameters of the eq and that’s it
I wish there was a button on that screen that if you press it leaves only the parameters, while if you click it it also shows the waveform that comes out. It would be something similar to what I attach, hoping that you understand
Alessio
Rox-Ale,
It’s probably not best practice to mix or record according to the beauty of a depiction of a waveform, any more than it is to mix according to the position of the faders or the number of meter lights that are lit. That’s what ear training is all about. I agree with what NotTooLoud inferred - it’s doubtful that it’s a very useful “feature”.
That’s right I agree with you. You don’t have to mix by looking at the waveform but by using your ear. That’s why I asked for this function, just to mix using the ear.
Therefore I would like to review the same thing in a digital mixer as in an analog mixer. See attached image in the previous post, leaving only the parameters
If it is not clear in case I answer again
Alessio
Hi!
When you disble the function which opens the processing window automaticly, you can leaf any screen and use the EQ Knobs without any grafical response…
But maybe then it would be great to get the values (like it’s realized on Midas Pro Series):
no matter what your screen is showing - when you turn any knob → the get’s a small popup with the value inside.
This would ba a great thing for the SQ!
I love this little popup value - without changing the screen!
greetings dd
I confirm with what ioTon says.
Having a screen like that of the midas pro x, regarding eq. I attach image
I confirm that the function would come in handy
Alessio
I agree in general that mixing on a digital mixer draws your attention to the mixer surface/screen more than mixing on analog where you knew where the knobs were and you
could instinctively reach for, grab, turn and adjust a knob without looking, sometimes
two at a time!
As for the channel EQ screen if you have the screen on a different menu and select the
channel you want to adjust and just use the three EQ knobs and band select buttons.
Ok more or less like what ioTon just said.
Perhaps.
But I saw our MD play the Qu like it was a piano keyboard, or touch typing on a typewriter.
He knew where everything was and the significance of what was done on the Qu.
Most people will not have that ability.
But if you could do it on analog, you could learn to do it on digital too.
Mike C, corrected that I can use the eq knobs on another page, but I have nothing on hand. The 3 knobs of the eq show nothing, they have no indicators. I would like there to be a screen that displays only the parameters as in the photos I attached earlier. It’s fine to see the parameter values, God forbid, but if it were possible not to see the graph it would be better (or with a hide / show button).
Alessio
Perhaps.But I saw our MD play the Qu like it was a piano keyboard, or touch typing on a typewriter.
He knew where everything was and the significance of what was done on the Qu.Most people will not have that ability.
But if you could do it on analog, you could learn to do it on digital too.
True as do I on a Qu surface unless you do need to do something in a menu, that said I do a lot on the iPad as well so that does require to keep an eye on the screen.
For speed I do like the dedicated EQ knobs for each band on the QU over the band button select on the SQ.
I agree with Alessio and ioTon that having a Midas ProX pop-up-like window for the EQ parameters would be desirable. But whether you’re looking at a graphical representation of the EQ or the numerical values of the EQ, you’re still looking at a screen, so I’m not sure there’s an advantage of one over the other.
And MikeC - I agree that using a digital surface, in general, demands more attention to the console and results in less attention being paid to the performers. But I blame that more on those desks - like the Avids - that rely on the use of a trackball, which I hate, or a mouse which is only slightly better. I am liking the implementation of the UI on the SQ desk. I’m able to get in and out of a parameter adjustment and get back to listening, rather than paying attention to the desk itself. If anything, having the ability to have an external screen locked to a particular view - like a monitor mix or an FX - would allow me even more time to spend on paying attention to the performer and less on pushing buttons.
If anything, having the ability to have an external screen locked to a particular view – like a monitor mix or an FX – would allow me even more time to spend on paying attention to the performer and less on pushing buttons.
You can more or less do that by using an iPad and have the iPad set on the needed menu.
The QU24, Qu32 and SQ7 even have a handy place to put the iPad.
You can more or less do that by using an iPad and have the iPad set on the needed menu.
Ah, thank you for that reminder. Yes, that’s a very workable solution. Several weeks ago, KeithJ reminded me that data entry - labeling the inputs, e.g. - can be done quickly on an iPad as well. Another very helpful tip.
Cheers.
Thanks to all of the suggestions.
I realized that not everyone could use it, but some do. So if you could have a screen like the one in the picture, either on the left or on the right, where you can see only the parameters and no graphic representation of the eq would be welcome. Always keeping all screens present now of course
Thanks Alessio
Lets put this energy into asking for a Deep EQ insert emulation of an SSL channel strip or something similar. I agree about not looking at the graph. When I see my guys hesitant to EQ something I know they want to because it “looks” too extreme, I throw a piece of paper over the screen for them and tell them to carry on. We’ve got classic compressors already lets have some classic EQ. Not Pultec cos they are too subtle for live but something like an SSL channel strip plugin would be awesome!
During one of the NAMM talks this year, Dr. Rob Clark (Managing Director of Allen and Heath), mentioned that they are working on an SSL channel emulator for the DLive. Typically we see plugins start at the DLive console and slowly trickle down to the other consoles (Avantis and SQ). The did not give a time frame for the plugin (at least not that I remember), so it will definitely be a while before something like that would be available on the SQ series (if it is released at all on the SQ because not every DLive plugin is available on other consoles). But hopefully it is coming.
@Brian , Just to clarify (before a rumour starts!) - in the NAMM DEEP session, Dr. Rob was talking about a DEEP bus compressor model rather than channel emulation.
Cheers,
Keith.
Thanks for the clarification Keith. I clearly misunderstood that.