suggestions

Hi all,

I’ve got next wish (: I guess I will always have ideas how to make console better, no matter how good it is.

I’ve connected two surfaces to one mixrack. And it works! So my wish is to create TWO faders for each channel - one for FOH and one for MONitors allowing monitor guy to have sends post mon fader (but pre EQ). I guess, the separate EQ (even simpler) is not possible because of DSP resources?

IMHO, firmware versions since 2.x should have some game implemented. Arkanoid or Galaxian or even Tetris (please don’t add game FX to master bus…).

Oh, and one option more: 32 buses only for mixex, no PFL. Sometimes those 2 auxes are necessary.

Best regards,

ZiKE

THERE IS NO JUSTICE, THERE IS ONLY ME

i do have made such a setup although due to the fact that most

of our customers (rockbands) dont need more than 32 channels.

therefore i have channel 1-32 as f.o.h. channels and 33-64 as monitor channels no dsp limits-laptop to do the monitor mix ( i am used to it)

most bands around here have a f.o.h ing but not monitor…

i have a own band ( frank zappa tribute 10 piece) where we have 10 stereo in ears (fantastic) two dedicated rev for moni only, plus a what i call radio mix wich is ,including scenes to recall, ready for broadcast we did it once with a second laptop in a controlroom very nice indeed

important is tha you make 3 different scenss for the appearance

(scene just saves strip layout) coz everytime you recall this show

it sets the “view” to the consoles (in my case a 144)

cheers

dave

allen&heath i-live digital /focusrite octopre/ rme digi/multiface/

samplitude pro v 10.01 / sample-tank / synthogy ivory / DFHS drummer

algoritmix renovator/de scratch pro/de noise pro/peq orange red and blue /K-stereo

I see vers 1.5 is going to include input Gain on the rotary encoders by using the Alt View switch (Will be great!) How about also using a key combination to select the Alt View target - such as holding down ALT view, and pressing the Rotary Shift to toggle between socket ID, DSP Channel, dB value, Gain!

While on the subject of key combinations - How about a key combination and/or a user key to store or update scenes. ie: hold down Alt View and press the scene Go button to update or store a scene.

The scene item “Input Channel mixer” needs to have more flexible options - It currently stores all channel Mutes, Levels, Aux Levels, mix assignments, DCA assignments etc all together. So you can’t for example just store the mute settings of channels 1-20 in each scene without storing all the other settings. That probably applies to the other mixers also (DCA & Mix). This would be useful for Theatre users who can use many scenes for performers radio mic’s etc.

If the above could be done then Also (Whew!) - a/some User scene library settings that allow you to quickly set what will be stored and become the default for storing new scenes.

Only had my system a short while (T112/iDr48) and finding it awesome! Bring on Vers1.5 and beyond!

Cheers

Richard

Audio Dynamite Ltd

Gain on Rotarys over “ALT VIEW”?

I think the better Logic is to make this over the button “ROTARY SHIFT”

now I use iLive over 30 jobs and I see a simple Problem:

the touch-buttons in the touchscreen are a little bit to small for big fingers :wink:

I look at the designs, there is enough place to make it a size larger. only make it a little bit higher, that´s enough.

this can help to make the control faster and safer!

touchscreen again:

in the routing screen we can select the Aux-send signal source (…POST HPF, POST EQ, POST DELAY …).

this drop down menu is very small and not easy to handle with your finger!

can you bring this as a quick-menue - like the channel-naming?

sorry for my bad english, I hope you understand.

I would like to see flashing mix lights to indicate that a channel can or can’t be assigned to the currently selected mix.

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Originally posted by Wolfgang

Gain on Rotarys over “ALT VIEW”?

I think the better Logic is to make this over the button “ROTARY SHIFT”


If you use the SUB mode you already need the rotary shift to send signal to the sub out.

The alt view button is always available no matter what setup your in so alt view is a better option.

What I would like is the possibility to use the rotary knobs for a fixed send (delay, reverb ). In combination with the alt view. so you can quick add delay without changing back and fort to send on faders every time. especially for those reggae bands [8D]

Lieven

T112/IDR48

There are multiple options for the Alt/View/Rotary shift buttons.

You will see the different modes when 1.5 is released.

Wolfgang I agree with you about the touch screen and big fingers.I use cheap propelling pencil (Mechanical pencils) bit like a stylus for a PDA that way I can hit the correct button.The only problem now is where do I keep my Pokey Stick [:smile: ]

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Originally posted by Lieven Dewispelaere
quote:
Originally posted by Wolfgang

Gain on Rotarys over “ALT VIEW”?

I think the better Logic is to make this over the button “ROTARY SHIFT”


If you use the SUB mode you already need the rotary shift to send signal to the sub out.


no, I don´t use the SUB mode.

in “LR SUB” mode I can´t send a single signal in the SUB, when I route this signal over a subgroup, not directly in the mix.

therefore I use the normal “LR” mode and use an normal Aux to send the signal to the subwoofer.

when i don´t use the SUB mode ,I got two more Aux-sends…

and now the better way for me is to use the ROTARY SHIFT button [8D][:smile: ]

I would like to have an Button to switch +48V on or off global - i was used to it at my Yamaha-times - and think thats an good thing to have.

Also i would like to see the Delay times at the delay in BPM - not only in ms.

And of course an distortian and an pitch shift effect - give me that things and i am completly happy… [:smiley: ]

Hi,

i would like to have a second PFL/AFL bus, so i can do monitoring via my laptop/touchpad and have a wedge/in ear at the side of the stage, independent from what FOH is doing :wink: .

Second PFL/afl routable to the mixrack outputs.

Also absolutely neccessary when a two console - one Mixrack setup would become possible.

With this extra, the I-live can have something, nobody in the market can offer for the moment.

regards,

Maarten

I’d like to have a LRMsub mode, so I can make use of all 4 main paths without sacrificing an aux send for the Sub.

Also, aux sends PAN follow Main mix PAN option.

Beautiful system and concept, thou.

Andy

I have a thought…

Im using IDR48 +T112 surface, ok i know there are a lot of controllable faders and we have the “freeze in layer” function but if i wanted to have even more control of a mix what would be the limiting factor with using a T80 console as a sidecar?

Ok let me talk specifics… im not talking about a 2nd ACE connection or ‘audio’ split, im talking about control parameters.

I can obviously have my laptop (or several laptops) connected either wireless or wirelessly next to my main console, so is it possible to link to surfaces together via the network ports, change the ip’s on the 2nd console and have control of the IDR48?

Im thinking this should be possible, but if not how come?

Of course with the ACE expansion cards available now one should simply buy the iLive 144/176 surfaces if more control surface is needed but you get where im coming from?

Oh … btw A+H, whats the plan for the minijack Touchscreen sockets on the back of the T series surfaces???

minijack Touchscreen sockets on the back of the T series surfaces???

Its the audio io to the touch screen computer. We thought if we decide to use them for features in the future they’d better be connected !

but no plans yet.

I second that idea - two PFL bus’s - one for FOH one for laptop with the ability to output at the mixrack headphone jack separate to FOH? or at least route to an output as suggested. I currently use an Aux as a makeshift solution with the editor/Laptop with all Aux send levels at unity and all output mix assignments off - apart from an output for monitoring. Then just turn ON the channels you want to listen to. Not ideal as you have to turn each switch off again!

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Originally posted by maartengeluid

Hi,

i would like to have a second PFL/AFL bus, so i can do monitoring via my laptop/touchpad and have a wedge/in ear at the side of the stage, independent from what FOH is doing :wink: .

Second PFL/afl routable to the mixrack outputs.

Also absolutely neccessary when a two console - one Mixrack setup would become possible.

With this extra, the I-live can have something, nobody in the market can offer for the moment.

regards,

Maarten


It would be good if the midi spec could be updated to output channel MIX, PAFL, plus SEL keys and if possible to send all current settings (Fader levels, mutes, switch settings etc) when scenes are recalled?

When working with a laptop this would allow quick channel selection/pafl etc using an external midi controller device.

Also midi support for the channel encoders would be good[:smiley: ]

I have set up a custom midi device (has moving faders) as a controller for levels,mutes and scene recalls however being able to access the Mix/PAFL/Sel keys over MIDI and to have scene settings recalled would make it just awesome!

Does anyone know if the mixrack MIDI in/out can be accessed directly over the ACE network from a Laptop running suitable Midi to Lan software such as ethernetmidi?

Cheers

iLive T112/iDR48. The more I use it the more I love it!

A quick suggestion from my experience of iLive and various other digital consoles.

It would be really nice to me if there was a user preference for automatically de-select after a set time period. For example when mixing i might want to alter an eq on a bass di, but for some reason don’t select an input strip and end up re eqing the main vocal, things like this can be easily done when the pressure is on and you start rushing… but if for example there was an ‘auto cancel’ on strip selects after 15/30/60 seconds of no encoder activity, then you’d be forced to press the appropriate select button before making changes.

On another note, our t-80 and idr32 was delivered on thursday. It has done 2 shows this weekend, both with me at the helm and GOSH it sounds really good, and i’m already confident with it. I think there is some work to be done from my perspective about prefered layouts, but that will come with time.

Thanks A&H!

If i understand right, you want sel to auto cancel after a time period.

Some nonitor engineers will find that really scary. They sometimes just want to park on a channel and have instant access, not worry about if it might auto cancel.

Making it a mode may work - but then it gets compex maybe for new users to know whats going on.

worth thinking about more though as a mode ?

Yes, I’m a monitor engineer first and that would frustrate me massively on the stage. There are just certain times when it would be a good function, even if it were buried deep in a menu.

I did say at the top of the post about it being a user preference though, it just wasn’t too clear, I was written late in the day after a really long weekend.

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Originally posted by robc

If i understand right, you want sel to auto cancel after a time period.

Some nonitor engineers will find that really scary. They sometimes just want to park on a channel and have instant access, not worry about if it might auto cancel.

Making it a mode may work - but then it gets compex maybe for new users to know whats going on.

worth thinking about more though as a mode ?


Definitely worth a thought imho, not only for monitor work.

Christian Tepfer

Hamburg, Germany

PS: Is there any inside opinion on notch filters and post fader and keyable dynamics?