Switch Aux to Matrix

In the german PA-Forum (paforum.de) a user suggested a “Switch Aux to Matrix” function. For us, and sure for many others, this would make a lot of things easier and the console even more versatile. We do a lot of smaller shows, mostly trade show events or others where you have only a couple of wireless mics, but a lot of loudspeaker zones, like delay lines, speakers different conference rooms etc. The QU16 is the perfect desk for that, but we have to solve the distribution thing via an external (Speaker-)Matrix. So - would it be possible for the DSP to switch Auxes Pairwise to become Matrix-Outs? Softwarewise this can’t be a big thing (I’m not the programmer, so it’s easy for me to say that :slight_smile: ), you wouldn’t have to change anything on the hardware itself.

So, just let us know, if this is an option - and keep up the good work :slight_smile:

Thomas

What exactly do you want to achieve?

I would like to have some matrix busses on the QU - and I thought, that one possible way to achieve that without the need to redesign the Hardware would be the ability to switch busses between Auxes (fed from Inputs) and Matrix (fed from other busses). Sorry for the poor english :slight_smile:

That would be a great idea.
In corporate events we don’t need that much aux sends but a lot more busses and matrices…

I Really really would like to see this feature as we are always asked to give press feeds and i want to give them a matrix feed instead of just mixing a whole new mix for them on post fade… please enable this function!
Oh, and can we have a delay line option on the feed to please… for delay stacks too…

Thanks,

Dave

Matrix would be a very beneficial part of the console. a console of this class should have a couple of matrixs atleast.

Doesn’t switching the auxes to postfade, and set their mix all at zero acheive what you want? I don’t do that kind of thing so far, so why not?

Matrix is a bus that is fed by busses not inputs

Oh, right, duh. Too much turkey, brain cells asleep… :wink:

So I sent all the faders to 0db and set them all to post fade. This was the make a version of a matrix send… However for some reason when on main mix the compression etc does not work on the matrix output… So that way around is pointless… And more suggestions or maybe even an update from A&H?

Thanks,

Dave

Bump… I need to switch the mix outputs to matrix outs so I can send press feeds and delay lines…!! Please update A&H.

Dave

Still bumping!.. Come on A&H… :slight_smile:

Bump

The QU16 is a small desk, which I bought to use it for smaller events, when I don’t want to carry my iLive. Groups or DCA’s were nice to have, but I can live without them. If I really need them, I use the bigger system.

What I miss, are one or two matrix outputs, to send signals to delayed speakers. Maybe the following could work and could be done easyly with a minor software update:

It is now possible to route a mono mix of both master channels to the alternate outputs. If it’s possible to add a independent volume control and a delay to each of the alternate output channels, we get two outputs for two mono delay lines, which follow the master fader. The controls only have to be at the touch screen, because if they are set, most of the time there will be no need to change the settings.

I think that could be an easy solution and would make the desk very useful for smaller corporate events.

Greetings from Austria,

Andy

I still ask for group and matrix
group could be a fixed aux like others did it

maybe it is possible to configure the stereo mixes as Aux, Group or matrix

Matrix would be so great on QU-16. (instead of some Mixes)

Please do it, it would be outstanding helpful.

I would pay for it, but i don’t want a larger desk!

Thanks for your attention!

Nearly every job I miss this feature!
I workaround with analog looping Main to Inputs or do it with post-Aux.

Both sucks. Second solution I got no post-Main possibility!

Please give it to us! :wink:

QuPac?

Matrixes on a 16 channel desk is a little overkill for the vast majority of the target market.

From what you’ve said before I’d suggest that an outboard processor (racked with your amps) is probably a better solution.

Thanks for your reply.

No, I dont think its an “overkill”:

Theres a (big) world beside the typical Live-Band-Show.

I got often a situation likes this:
A handful Wireless-Mics for discussion/presentation for example and a Stereo-Input (Keynote)
(typical industrial job)

The venue needs a delay-line an there is a secondray-room the audio-signal should be transmitted to.
(Or a broadcast company would like to have a audio signal)

I often got really really little space for my gear. (Best thing to keep it all behind presentation-screen or in a niche)

Why should I use a bigger desk? 16 Channles are more than enough an I got 19" rack-dimension - PERFECT!

I do jobs like these nearly every week.

I want to have “hardware-faders” - I did “racked” processing in the past (iLive Mixrack)
I had sometimes trouble loosing Wifi-connection (venues with much Wifi-traffic)

For this reason I want to have a “manual” backup that allows quick access to faders to avoid feedback and so on.
(Thats my experience over years as an full-time tech)

I dont think it would be “very hard” to give us the feature of a Matrix instead of a Aux-Mix.
I would pay for it, I would even buy other hardware, but the main features (dimensions, fader quantity, usability, sound,…) of the QU-16 are really perfect for my usage.

So I think its legit to express my desire of a matrix/ matrices, I know there are many other guys with the same desire!

(I know there are workarounds because I use them, but they are little annoying, its a thing that should be able to be implemented with a relative simple firmware update)

Thanks for your attention!

I Second LK’s opinion! Please enable this function.

Thankyou.

Press feeds etc are simple copies, so Alt out already covers that. There is an argument (and a request somewhere) to add a delay to the alt-out DAC for single delay line options.

But if you are looking for delay lines, and only using a couple of channels, then why not loop to an ST input, then you can have all the axes as copies of the main mix?