What I heard of your recording on my small computer speakers the dry snare sounded ok adding the FX seemed to be the issue.
Sorry if I missed it but have you tried a different input channel on the mixer?
Have you tried an different effects patch and or FX send?
On the recording you posted what was the average snare channel level both
on the pre amp screen and when PFL’d on the main meters.
For fun try another mic on the snare, something simple like a 57 and trim the input gain to a normal level and then really start pushing the input gain to see where is starts to break up and note the input channel levels.
You can buy external phantom power for condenser mikes.
You could try the mike without the phantom to cut gain way down.
You could not play so hard and just use the SM57.
Not sure how dynamic range works with a drum but your problem sounds more like peak problems not DR issues.
You could try the mike without the phantom to cut gain way down.
It would cut the gain down alright…you would get nothing!!!
An external phantom power supply would work and then go into the 1/4 inch TRS line in.
You need to trim the gain back so on the hardest snare hit the input only peaks around
+6 or so on the meter…the yellow area.
When you say your hitting the in the red on peaks you don’t know how far your really going beyond "the red at that time.
If you need to drive the channel inputs so hot to get any level from your system you may have gain structure issues else where, either with in the mixer set up it self or external to mixer in your PA system.
Many condensers will give you some signal without any phantom.
Give me a make and model number.
Condensers with an internal battery, yes.
The FET pre amp circuit in a condenser mic that takes the extremely high impedance of the condenser capsule and amplifies it is not going to pass signal without power applied.
The way I see it: the only reason I can go for external phantom is to end up directing the mic signal into line in and not have a bulky another mixer by my side.
Then again, with a mixer near me dedicated for snare mic only, I could use that mixer for better personal IEM control, since it’s there, near me.
Of course MikeC, but I meant IEM control on a gig. This setup is for rehearsals. When we get to play somewhere, the mixer won’t be close to me. Whoever does the the job with the mixer will send me my aux, but I’d rather have them send it to the Zed-mixer first, and through it to my IEMs. That way I get to control aux volume without communicating with the sound guy, plus I can manipulate the volume of my snare in the iems.
@Dado
Wow nice expensive mics!
Firstly I have never used these mics.
Have used and miked a lot of snares drums though
I had a listen on a few PCs and also some Yamaha studio monitors.
I also listened to the snare in this clip at 2.30 minutes https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM20--earthworks-dm20-small-diaphragm-condenser-drum-microphone
Can you take a pic of how close the mic is to the skin so we can see?
Have you tried moving the mic slightly further away from the skin?
Xyz, the mic is positioned about 3" from the edge of the head pointing towards the center of the head. It didn’t help moving it farther more (5 or 6") still had the same too hot peaking signal, unless I used the analog mixer, zed12fx in this case.
OK I see
There is NO pad on local inputs unless you use an AR digital stage box!?
I have just plugged into my QU an AR84 ~ 8 channel[Purple club] and there is a pad on the touch screen when switched to digital input.
However it seems that as Mike said it sounds like the reverb is the issue?
So are you wanting to use this in recording or for live sound?
I would have thought that the external pads you purchased would have brought back that level of signal level down to a manageable level?
Xyz
Nope, the shure attenuator did not solve the situation (level did go down, but it still peaked at stronger snare shots).
What solved the situation and what worked always, was when I am using the analog mixer (zed12fx) at its -10db.
And yes: I want to use this for both live and recordings.
You might want to try some dampening or muting directly on your snare. There are many ways to quiet a loud drum without changing its tone too much. You might also try not mounting the mic to the snare rim. Use a stand.
Gary I tried holding the mic with my left hand 4-5" above the edge of the head (no mounts or stands) while hitting the snare with my right hand, and it still clipped.
