i made severeal attempts to get this going and now seek for your support to get this feature implemented on QU Mixers (espcially QU-SB)
We need the option to unlink the sends separately when using linked channels.
Vote for it! We need it.
Why?
There might be a lot of other reasons why to do this, but my main goal is to be able to pan linked channels on the stereo monitor busses (Mix5-10), which i use primarily for inear mixes, which of course are best if run in stereo. If used in stereo i need to be able to distribute my channels in the mix. This is not possible for linked input channels (which i use a lot, as we have a lot of instruments running in stereo)
In other words:
If i link two input channels i loose the ability to pan those correctly in my monitor mixes.
Their pan pots are hard panned L/R which leaves them quite useless. Wasted. (but this is another story, so we donāt focus on that)
The only workaround to this would be to use the (send-)faders to mimic the panning.
This is possible for the main faders - these can be unlinked individually
But itās not possible for the sends, as soon as a channel is linked.
As we loose a lot of comfort in editing if we have to unlink the channels completely, just to achieve that panning goal, we NEED the option to unlink the channel-sends separately!
Edit: If this feature is already requested somewhere else, point me there, iāll vote for it!
Damn, I was going to post a printscreen of the preference window you get when you press the ālinkā button but the forum wonāt let me (file too big). Anyway, in the preferences, unlink pan et voilĆ”ā¦
thanks for your thoughts, but that doesnāt do the trick.
Iām aware of the unlink option for panning, and itās true, that you can move the pan pots individually then, but this does not help!
All you achieve, is that you pan the right channel more to left (for example) but that does neither achieve what a normal panpot is doing nor what i intend to do.
It only results in collapsing the stereo image of the source! This is why i state: The panpots of a linked channel are totally wasted, as they MUST stay in full L/R Position to do what a linked (stereo) channel is intended for.
What we need to do is to lower the volume on one side (which is roughly spoken, what a normal panpot on a mono channel, or a true stereo channel does)
The only solution I can think of is splitting the stereo signal and sending the splits to 2 mono channels. Assign stereo to mains, assign mono splits to IEM mixes.
Iām not quite sure, if i understand your advice, but as far as i know, the only solution to this now (on a QU-Series, especially a QU-SB) is to simply not linking the channels at all.
This remains / restores full control over both channels and i can handle them individually.
The downside to this is, that i have to edit all the other settings, that i would like to stay linked like EQās, Mutes, Gate, Compressor, ā¦ twice - once on each channel.
So this takes us back to my initial feature request.
Is your goal to try to pan these stereo instruments so that you can place the instruments in various positions in the stereo field for your in ear mix? Iām not at my mixer now but are you saying the unlink panning option wonāt allow you to, for example, pan the left channel hard left and bring the right channel to somewhere closer to centre so that instrument sounds like itās placed to the left in the in ears?
i think, this is the same idea, that Giga came up with. Isnāt it?
Is your goal to try to pan these stereo instruments so that you can place the instruments in various positions in the stereo field for your in ear mix?
ā Yes
Iām not at my mixer now but are you saying the unlink panning option wonāt allow you to, for example, pan the left channel hard left and bring the right channel to somewhere closer to centre so that instrument sounds like itās placed to the left in the in ears?
ā Not really as i would expect it to work. I sure can unlink the panning, BUT as i tried to describe above, this only collapses the stereo field and might also introduce phasing issues. What i want to achieve (and what a normal panpot on a ārealā stereo channel does - refer to ST-1 on the QU-SB for example: It attenuates the left / right side it simply gets quieter, but it does not āmoveā the channel to the other side.
I understand that the mixer is working, like a normal analog desk would work, so my solution as described above is the same work around, like i would use on an analog desk, but it would be much nicer, if the pan option would change its behaviour as soon as i link channels.
Again, not at my mixer but I think I may be starting to recall how it works on this mixer. When you choose, unlink panning it just unlinks the pan controls from the main out pans. So if itās linked, you can adjust the pan on the main mix and it will in turn make the same adjustment in the monitor mixes.
It doesnāt unlink the L and R channel from each other.
If thatās the case I totally agree, being able to unlink left and right channels from each other on any of the stereo mic buses would be really handy for making a good stereo mix.
If I recall correctly, the stereo aux buses canāt be unlinked from each other the way a pair of input channels can be stereo linked (and unlinked). I will add a vote for this feature as I canāt think of a way to do it but it would be helpful.
thanks for your thoughts and efforts.
The āPanpotsā can be unlinked and then are unlinked for all mixes (as far as i remember, canāt test either now ) .
What can only be unlinked for the main bus is the channel fader itself, so i canāt use my own workaround (adjust the faders on the mix bus) as long as the channel is linked.
But i still insist:
There should be an option to change the behaviour of the āPanPotsā in linked channels to make them work like on an āoriginalā Stereo Bus, like the ST-1 - ST-3 for example.
If you use these channels, the Pan behaves exactly as i want it to behave.
As we are talking digital, software controlled mixers, everything should be possible.
But anyways, the original request is to unlink faders in all sends, not only the main bus, which would also accomplish my needs.
As SteffenR has already pointed out, what you are trying to achieve is not possible and now with the QU being in its 10th year, it is very unlikely that this feature will be implemented. If it is a feature that you need in your workflow, maybe a change of digital mixer is needed?
thee QU-SB is the perfect mixer for my needs and i totally understand, that the āBalance-Featureā will most likeky not being implemented. Maybe no Feature Update at all will be implemented, but that wonāt keep me from trying. ?
The original feature request is also something different, and maybe not as hard to implement. So lets stick to that and bury the stereo balance. ?
Btw.: which product would you recommend to look at?
Is there anything new, like the qu-sb? As i said, i really think the SB is a great, good sounding, feature rich product, which i think i really āMax outā today. And this missing feature - to unlink the faders on sendsā is something i can work around, and is more of a comfort feature.
