Hi all. I just received a CQ-12T and everything is working like it should except for the USB stream from my MAC. It works for a period of time and then stops. It doesn’t matter whether the mixer is in stereo/multi stream or 48/96khz. It happens multiple times throughout the day and I found a workaround but am wondering if the A&H team has seen this issue.
My workaround is to change the sample rate or stream mode in the config page and then change it back to where it was before. That gets the USB connection to work again for a period of time (hour to multiple hours) before the USB stream becomes unresponsive again. It got me twice today while trying to connect on Riverside.FM to record podcasting clients.
I’ve managed to repeat both the problem and the workaround but I’m perplexed by why it’s happening. The SQ5, ZEDi, and Apogee Symphony don’t exhibit this behavior so it is isolated to the CQ. I’ve taken a video of the issue and the workaround that can be seen here: iCloud Photos - Apple iCloud
Would love some help troubleshooting. Also, it was a blast seeing the A&H booth at NAMM last week!
I have the exact same issue. For me, I notice it when I stream sound/music from different apps on my Mac (Sonoma 14.2.1), like when I switch from my browser YouTube or SoundCloud to Spotify or Apple Music. Then, I experience the same thing as you and found the same workaround, which gives a workable, but temporary solution.
So I’m tagging along to this post, to hopefully find a solution.
We would certainly like to look into this, please submit a ticket to Support@allen-heath.com
If you could please share your video with us through that channel, we will be happy to troubleshoot this with you.
@DennisVA has already submitted a ticket and we will work on this with him through there.
Same issue. I hope Allen & Heath take this one seriously and fixes the problem without the cookie cutter responses “is the mixer powered on”, “is the usb cable plugged in”, “is your mac up to date”.
While troubleshooting with users, we will certainly assume that the mixer is powered on and the USB cable being plugged in, however, other questions cannot be left to assumptions and are necessary for us to spot or narrow down possible causes, such as knowing the operative system and Firmware versions.
If you would like to get in touch with us for assistance, you are welcome to reach out at: Support@allen-heath.com
Hello,
I have the same problem (CQ 12 T). It happened to me with two different computers: iMac 2023 and MacBook Pro 2018, both with updated operating system (Sonoma 14.3.1) (the two computers obviously have different processors). And it happens to me both with Logic Pro and with Audition and with any other sound source (Qobuz, Youtube, etc.). All parameters are configured as written in the Guide (Sample Rate, etc.). When this happens, the software I’m using crashes. Similarly, it blocks the QC from turning off if I use the Shut Down button (it stops the image that usually spins). The firmware version is 1.1.1 (r3684). I’ve noticed that the problem mostly pops up when I change the listening mode: if I switch back to using CQ after switching to the internal speakers or WiFi speakers, I don’t hear any sound. I have to turn the mixer off and on again to get it working again. I wrote emails to support.
I have the same problem in my Mac Sequoia. Normally happens when I change to a different audio application or in Youtube sometimes when I change to another video. I have to restart to make it work again.
I have raised a support ticket with the following details:
Hello,
I have just tracked down an issue where the audio buzzes and drops out when the usb cable is connected to the onboard USB A ports on my Mac M2. When I use a USB 2.1 hub that connects to the Thunderbolt ports on my Mac I do not experience this issue.
Could you please advise as to if this is expected behaviour.
The response I received to the support ticket I created was:
“It is not uncommon to find that performance varies between different USB connections. I am certain that there is nothing going wrong here.”
Performance varies? Perhaps I recall a time when changing USB ports solved some things. That was on a PC which reloaded the USB driver each time a different port was used, which solved some issues. But never on a Mac, and a 2023 M2 Max with a fresh OS install at that. Macs have robust and deep USB support, besides there are no other USB devices exhibiting this behavior. At any rate “performance varies” is not what is happening here. The CQ20B does not stream multitrack audio in any direction on any port. I do hear some audio but mostly its pops, clicks, stuttered playback, and loud buzzing.
I have requested the ticket be escalated, as well as understanding of A&H RMA policy.
I have just tracked down an issue where the audio buzzes and drops out when the usb cable is connected to the onboard USB A ports on my Mac M2.
Humming, buzzing and strange digital behavior always make me think that there could be also a grounding problem.
Are both devices (CQ and Mac – and no others at this moment!) connected to the same, correctly grounded power net?
Are both devices (CQ and Mac – and no others at this moment!) connected to the same, correctly grounded power net?
Yes sir all is connected to the same, grounded circuit. The first time I noticed the problem was in the middle of a band rehearsal. Prior to that it had been running in the same config without issue for 3 months. It almost sounds like what you would hear when sample rates aren’t matched, but quite worse. I initially thought it was hardware as well, I’ve replaced the cable with a known good and working cable.
Since the port change it only occurred once and very briefly with the ‘new’ port in use. I am going to start relying more on the SDCARD for recording live sessions. We use 20 channels so I hope that doesn’t have an issue either.
I’ve reinstalled OS+apps, flashed firmware, replaced cables. I’m out of troubleshooting ideas and for support to reply that simply it’s because of differences with USB ports is a little mind blowing!
When I use a USB 2.1 hub that connects to the Thunderbolt ports on my Mac I do not experience this issue.
But that suggests that the USB connection on your CQ is basically working – even if this fact is still not sufficiently useful to you at the moment.
But that suggests that the USB connection on your CQ is basically working – even if this fact is still not sufficiently useful to you at the moment.
Agreed that the a USB handshake occurs and the devices see each other. It also transmits the default track information and identifies it appropriately to the Mac. In a new wrinkle, during rehearsal tonight the unit disappeared from the (ethernet) network and the LED aside the port started blinking rapidly from yellow to green. Performing the reset procedure did not produce helpful results and I eventually had to hard reboot, after some several minutes I was able reconnect. Because of the aforementioned USB issue I was recording to the SDCARD. I suppose yanking the power caused the files not be closed properly and they ended reporting that they were 0 bytes to the Mac, interestingly the SDCARD does show it consuming 10GB of space, so there’s data somewhere. Show invisible files is on, but I don’t see any other files on the card.
Anyhoo I could probably figure out how to wireshark the USB connection but I think I’m going to request a warranty RMA instead of throwing any more hours at this. I want to mention that the USB issues started suddenly the other night, no major infrastructure or otherwise changes occurred recently. I do have a support ticket open. I will make a post for posterity in this forum detailing the issues which have led up to my requesting warranty action.
Hello, I do have the same problem, that usb stops working on a Mac Studio and a Mac Mini, with the CQ-12T. I have that device for nearly a Year now, but the problems have been starting some month ago.
The only things I changed were the usual Mac Updates and the CQ firmware update to version 1.2 and now 1.2.1.
Maybe there is a bug in the firmware, because it has been working without any problems before.
Greetings Wutschgo
I’m getting this too on my CQ-12T, I’m trying to play videos from MacBook with audio via the CQ-12T, audio works for one video but then after a period videos refuse to play unless I change the audio output device to internal speakers or restart the CQ-12T, very frustrating! Is there any official fix/word from Allen & Heath?