Hi there!
Does anyone know of ways to get the MixApp for iOS a little cheaper, like discount programs or free coupons (or whatever they are called)? I recently got my hands on an iPad and would like to use it for remoting the Ilive, but 89€ seems a bit harsh on my pocket. 60-70 bucks is my pain threshold.
Jens -
I feel your pain… I know there are a slew of free apps for other systems, but none of them comes near the level of sophistication and usefulness of the MixPad app. I’ve been mixing pretty much all of my shows for the last year on the iPad, and have watched the app steadily improve and become more robust. I can’t remember the last time I ran my Datasnake, I park my R72 (or T112) sidestage and mix from anywhere in the venue.
To me the app is a good value, I don’t know of any of the competing apps I’d feel comfortable using for my foh mix.
Best to you,
Tim Tyler
Detonator Sound
Richmond, Va USA
T112/48 R72/32 laptop iPad Dir-815 Dante
Likewise- I have sold my R72 and now run either iPad or Macbook Pro. Last gig never even got the Macbook out. I just loaded up a show at home and then used the iPad.
Richard
Richard
I know what it can do, I used it on a friends iPad and also tried the offline version. No argument here. I’m willing to pay for it, but if someone knows about a way to get it 10 or 20 bucks off, I’d appreciate it. Yes, it seems a bit odd that we have to pay for it at all, since all apps from other manufacturers are free, even if they aren’t as good as the MixApp is, but I don’t mind. Also, there are certian ways to get it “for free”, I stumbled upon them by accident while looking for coupons or similar on the web, but still, I’m willing to pay.
Mix pad is way further advanced than the other iPad based control apps; clearly, this is why it costs…you say you’re willing to pay…so stop alluding to a cracked/crackable/dodgy version or trying to find a discounted way and pony up the elusive 10 or 20 additional bucks and just buy it…sheesh…pretty sure you won’t be sorry…cheers and have a nice day…
T112|iDR48+ACEcard|Laptop|iDR16|iPad|iPS10
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Originally posted by Jens Droessler…someone knows about a way to get it 10 or 20 bucks off, I’d appreciate it…
Yep, stop whining, pick your guitar, go on the street and busker for half an hour, earn 10 bucks, done 
Ok, I bought it for the full price. I wasn’t waiting for a cheaper price, but if anyone had known something to take off some bucks, it would have been nice.
Anyway, I’m a bit disappointed. There is NO WAY using just the iPad, and that sucks. After reading so much good I maybe was expecting too much. I never thought that it was impossible to access the effects settings (which is critical with dynEQ and multiband compression at least), storing and recalling scenes (which are now saved including name inside the iDR) or changing the physical input on a channel or the output patching. I understand that those features could be messy if a surface is attached to the system and somebody is working there. Changing a scene for example would be desastrous. But why not make such functionality dependend on an online surface? If there is a surface, no such features.If not, full fledged control on iPad.
Also, a “double tap to reset GEQ band” would be nice. Or maybe tripple tap, just to be sure it’s not by accident.
Yes, I agree there is more functionality than with other apps, but not THAT much more. All in all, I’m disappointed for what it can do for that price. I never thought those things mentioned could be missing…
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Originally posted by Jens DroesslerI never thought those things mentioned could be missing…
With that I can agree, but it is already a very useful tool in itself. For full control without a physical surface there you need an ilive editor, which you can also run on a windows tablet computer if you’d like.
I was quite active in the beginning when there was no ipad app, to ask for a touch screen interface. I asked for the editor to be made (multi-)touch screen compatible. This did not happen, the app came instead. Well, it’s definitely not that bad.
But, things can always be better.
Wouter
IDR32, R72, Dante, Mixpad
laptop, TP-Link TL-WR1043ND</font id=“size1”></font id=“navy”>
Yes - the top capability I would love now that the Scenes are stored in the MixRack is the ability, with appropriate safeguards, to recall a Scene. At present I “reset” the unit at home before a gig using Editor and then use just the iPad at a gig. However I have a number of Scenes that have proved useful in my library and it would be great to be able to switch between them from the iPad at the very least.
Any chance A&H?
Richard
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Originally posted by Acidpreacherthe top capability I would love now that the Scenes are stored in the MixRack is the ability, with appropriate safeguards, to recall a Scene.
Oh and I guess save to a new scene as well…
Richard
Jens -
I think you are being a bit disingenous… The Mixpad is a tool, it does what it does. Did you read the capabilities of Mixpad? The features are listed as well as well as features not available.
If this tool does not perform the job you require, that is sufficient reason to not purchase it. It’s been a great piece of gear for me, whatever can’t be done on the iPad is doable on the surface or laptop, and are typically setup actions that don’t affect my actual mixing. I hope you will find this app as valuable as I have, and remember Allen & Heath has a great track record of continually adding functionality to their gear!
Tim Tyler
Detonator Sound
Richmond, Va USA
T112/48 R72/32 laptop iPad Dir-815 Dante
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Originally posted by AcidpreacherYes - the top capability I would love now that the Scenes are stored in the MixRack is the ability, with appropriate safeguards, to recall a Scene. At present I “reset” the unit at home before a gig using Editor and then use just the iPad at a gig. However I have a number of Scenes that have proved useful in my library and it would be great to be able to switch between them from the iPad at the very least.
Any chance A&H?
Richard
See here for iPad Scene recall control: https://iliveforum.allen-heath.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1965&SearchTerms=Tcpip,remote
It’s not ideal but it is a good work around. I also hope for more iPad control to be added and would like Editor to be more touch friendly but overall find the iLive system has great flexibility performance and value for money
Cheers
Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72/Mixpad,Tweak,
Dual M-Dante/DVS, 17"MBP/Logic 9/Custom Mackie Control
Well it isn’t all powerful, but I also wouldn’t want so much loaded on it as to bog it down or make it sluggish which in my opinion would be worse. There are other options like Jump Desktop which let you do remote desktop into a PC using the editor if needed for other functions. There are downsides to that but it is fairly fast to switch between that and mixpad occasionally. I personally always use both laptop/editor and MixPad as I really have come to not trust the iPads wireless completely. Not as robust as my Lenova tablet which I usually have hard-wired to the rack anyway for redundancy.
Scott
iDR 32
iDR D-Out
MMO
Lenova T61, M90, iPad2
I d never rely on a wireless only solution to run a show…
cheers
dave
allways latest firm and software
iLive-144/t-80/idr-10 /idr-48/dante/pl-6/eyepad 1/belkin router/
Ok, so many here are saying the app is better than the competition.
While it is very cool, I don’t believe these people have actually looked at the competing apps.
Hows about the new Roland app for the V-mixing system?
The new M-200i lets you use the iPad to control pretty much everything, certainly much more than the iLive app.
Oh yea, and it’s free.
The Yamaha CL StageMix give head amp control, scene control and a bunch more.
Oh yea, and it’s free.
The MixPad app is fantastic, no-one is debating that.
It’s just way overpriced compared to the competition!!
Especially when you consider that iPad apps are per user!!
You pay one way or another - Go and purchase a Yamaha CL if you want a free app and a similar spec’d machine to an iLive - it certainly won’t be cheaper! Same with most other digital mixer brands. Allen & Heath have chosen to charge to cover app development costs and not include it in the mixer cost. I personally think that is a better idea as it keeps the mixer price down and at the same time stops wannabe sound engineers downloading a free app and thinking they are now a super engineer because they can walk around while making sound changes that aren’t actually required!
I and I’m sure others here don’t consider it an expensive app - but a cheap and powerful audio tool!
Cheers
Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72/Mixpad,Tweak,
Dual M-Dante/DVS, 17"MBP/Logic 9/Custom Mackie Control
Shuahughes -
Perhaps you could fill us in with YOUR experience with the Roland m200-i app… I couldn’t find a download for this app, would you be so kind to provide a link… Maybe you could direct us to a FULL listing of the capabilities of the app, I’ve searched & just got some sketchy info, no details, just a few general parameters… (I was told by Sweetwater here in the US that the consoles haven’t been shipped yet…)
Tim Tyler
Detonator Sound
Richmond, Va USA
T112/48 R72/32 laptop iPad Dir-815 Dante
Price is always equated to Value!
With the Roland App or almost all of the other apps, they can’t actually replace a mixer. ie, you still need to bring the mixer along to the gig.
However, with the iLive app, it can replace a mixer, which makes it quite a bit more valuable.
It is conceivable, that a user could avoid buying a surface if they have an application that allows them to use the iPad app and the laptop software. I have done exactly that for a recent install.
This means the value of the iPad software for the iLive is the equivalent of the avoided cost of having to buy a surface.
This is many thousands of dollars.
In this context, the app at a price of around $100 (i forget what it actually is), is comparatively cheap.
With all the other apps (including roland etc), the cost of the App is paid for by the fact that you have to buy the surface. With the iLive, because you don’t necessarily have to buy a surface and the racks are priced so cheap (relative to their horsepower), A&H would have to recoup the cost of developing the app from the app sales itself.
It is therefore in my opinion a bargain and people who complain about the price, should really think a bit more about value before they do so.
Exactly as Toby (millst) said!
And Editor IS free and has full control capability so you don’t have to buy a surface or Mixpad if you don’t think they are worth it! So can we now please quit the price bitchin of the Mixpad app!
Cheers
Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72/Mixpad,Tweak,
Dual M-Dante/DVS, 17"MBP/Logic 9/Custom Mackie Control
I did not bitch about the price. I’m just disappointed by the number of features. I also did not ask for a full control or full replacement of a surface or the editor, just for SOME more features like control over the effects (something even Behringer recently added to their free iPad app. and I’m mentioning that it’s free not because of the price of the MixApp, but to make the point that even FREE apps will be expanded, and this one already has some features MixApp doesn’t have, which is bad if you need to get people to buy it).
Yes, maybe the information about what the app can do is freely available, but the things that I’m missing are so basic I expected them to be there, not even thinking they could be missing. Who’d expect a car to be missing a steering wheel?