Now, this is interesting - https://www.allen-heath.com/dlive-c-class/
Really nice!
Wondering about price…
dLive C Class systems range from $6500 for a CDM32 MixRack up to $21500 for a CDM64 + C3500, but please speak to your local distributor for specific pricing information in your country: https://www.allen-heath.com/where-to-buy/
As excited as I am to see this, it still baffles me why they severely limit the local I/O.
You look at the S21, S31, M32, Vi’s, SC48, Midas Pro, etc. and all have local I/O available for small/medium sized gigs so you don’t have to force a mixrack.
A C1500 should have at least 24 Mic inputs. C2500 32 mic inputs, and C3500 48 mic inputs.
If you need expanded I/O you have the option to bring a mixrack.
It’s very frustrating to be forced into remote I/O when dropping a console into previous copper lines.
Not to mention the higher cost of manufacturing, extra truck space, extra time for setup, etc.
Hi ianhind,
You wouldn’t want to leave your mixrack at home, it contains all the DSP 
DC
To add to David’s post above, unlike most other consoles on the market, the MixRack is really the heart of a dLive system. It houses the XCVI core where all the routing, processing and mixing happens. It can be controlled with or without a dLive Surface, for example by a laptop, iPad, or A&H range of IP remote controllers. This opens up a number of applications where the Surface is not required or only occasionally used, in both installations or live sound. In other words the Surface is basically a remote controller for the rack, which explains why a MixRack is indeed required.
@ianhind, I guess most of us don’t have previous copper lines and wouldn’t want to pay for 48 preamps on a console at front of house when all the inputs are on stage.
Still disappointing not seeing a 16/8ch stagebox as IDR-16 for compact touring. Will be the one reason keeping us for not investing in the system.
Any infos on differences?
Other MicPres? Whats different at the hardware other than size then the original DLive as the software seems to be the same?
Smaller racks. Only one I/O slot. Obvious desk and screen differences.
Hi Albin and others,
The mic preamps are the same. The main hardware differences other than size, weight and number of faders are:
- Number of I/O Ports
- PSU redundancy
- gigaACE and DX Link redundancy
- Local I/O on Surface (6in/6out XLR vs. 8in/8out, and 1in/1out AES vs. 2in/3out)
Looking good.
So I guess these will not be available until?
They seem so similar to the S series, I’m not following why this new line comes out so soon after the S?
There’s already smaller consoles in the S line, I don’t get it. It seems strange to have a new product that’s not substantially different from the other.
Is it the Same Editor? Same channel features? Same software?
Confusing.
Thought the same thing at first, Mr.X. But after comparing them more, it’s clear that S Class is tour grade and C class is an entry-level dlive. The C class lacks redundancy and swappable power supplies, as well as fewer card slots, surface I/O, and DX expander ports. You also lose the left column of encoders by the screen.
Similar chasis, same software and engine, and smaller form factors available. If anything, this is a very tempting product for GLD users who want to upgrade.
Yes looks like entry level dLive to me.
Ive been tempted to get a GLD112 lately but…
My dealer rep says AH says shipping by end of Jan. We’ll see.
I got preliminary prices- it seems mixracks are -20%, surfaces -30%.
ddff
What about combining the c-Range with the “full” dLive: Can I use de S5000 with the CDM48? (not redundant - i know)
Since now… i’ve never used redundant PSU or Network… so for me a way to save money on the mixrack but still would like to have the S5000 Surface with the loads of functions!?
I’m told yes. Can mix.
As excited as I am to see this, it still baffles me why they severely limit the local I/O. You look at the S21, S31, M32, Vi’s, SC48, Midas Pro, etc. and all have local I/O available for small/medium sized gigs so you don’t have to force a mixrack. A C1500 should have at least 24 Mic inputs. C2500 32 mic inputs, and C3500 48 mic inputs. If you need expanded I/O you have the option to bring a mixrack. It’s very frustrating to be forced into remote I/O when dropping a console into previous copper lines. Not to mention the higher cost of manufacturing, extra truck space, extra time for setup, etc.Just put the MixRack at FOH if you're using a copper snake. It can live under the board and take up no extra room. I for one am delighted the way this system is designed. Other than the low end Behringer & Presonus and the Ultra-high-end LCS stuff, nobody makes a system like this where all the processing is in the rack. It's the way it should be and I personally love it's flexibility. If you want a console with lots of local I/O there's tons of choices out there. If you want a professional "console in a rack" like the dLive, there's nothing else out there at this price point. Well, I guess there's the DSP5D but there's no control surfaces or apps for it and it's a pretty old system.