There should be away to copy and paste and recall from the library the send levels of an input or group or for completeness auxes and the preamp.
It would be helpful for situations when you have your show file setup and band or client turns up and has an extra vocalist or needs and extra lapel or whatever than what you prepared for. One could copy an existing vocal or whatever existing channel you need and paste onto a spare channel that’s not needed and have all the processing (EQ, Comp, Gate etc.) copied and the send levels to any record feeds or effect sends or routing to EQ or Comp groups or foldback sends and DCA and mute group asignments all copied over. it also would be helpful with setting up multiple of similare channels quickly like multiple lapels for a pannel at corperate events. setup, ringout and sound check one lapel and copy and paste to the other lapel channels.
My personal preference for this would be to copy everything thing including the processing, routing and preamp using the copy and select key but I know that changing this will mess with people’s work flow as they won’t be use to it working with this way. So my suggestion is that there is an option that we could enable in the settings to include or exclude routing or even better, any parameter with the Copy and Select shortcut so we could include the preamp to if we wanted.
Also adding the ability to copy the routing with copy + routing button under the screen or just the processing with copy + processing buttons should be a added as a way to copy just these parameters if people don’t want to disable any parameters in the options I proposed with the copy+select shortcut.
I’m afraid you didn’t read the suggestion at all, or at least didn’t understand it, even though it was described very thoroughly and clearly.
So it’s not about copying the routing of a mix bus, but rather a single input channel.
That was what we were asking for in June 2020, already.
I think there were some threads with similar discussions, but can’t find the important one now.
We suggested using the Channel to All Mix button to do copy and reset the routing for a channel or a group. The mix buttons doing already what is needed from a mix side of view.
In this case, you can still copy/paste the routing and the processing as needed without answering a dialog box or doing a preference change.
Another discussion about that? I believe there are more…
Yes, I know this suggestion is ages old and that it’s still almost impossible to find something like this using the search function.
But anyone who uses Copy/Paste and copies the processing in the Processing section will be surprised/disappointed that in the Routing section, they don’t copy the routing, but illogically copy the processing again.
I tried it again because I thought I missed something, but I can’t find a way to copy the corresponding routing from one channel to another using the CH to All Mix function - neither with Copy/Paste nor via the Library.
If you know of a way, I would be very grateful if you would post it here.
In any case, I would prefer the simple “Copy Routing” (just like “Copy Processing”).
In my opinion, that would be much more logical than your suggested copying using “CH to All Mix,” which would require already a total of three buttons.
So which button should we press to copy the routing of an input channel?
We talk about a feature and it’s possible implementation.
And this is part of the idea behind the way it could be implemented.
On other desks of the brand, it is already separated.
The Ch2AllMix button is that what comes close to an input channel’s mix button.
Let’s start again from the beginning:
On the SQ, there are two channel screens Processing and Routing.
If I’m on the Processing screen, I can copy a channel’s processing using the Copy + Select keys.
And so it would be perfectly logical if I were on the Routing screen, I could copy a channel’s routing using the Copy + Select keys.
I really like the function of the CH to All Mix key, and on the SQ, it’s probably even more useful than the additional Mix key on GLD, Avantis, and dLive.
But in my opinion, it makes no sense to force SQ users, who have been able to copy their processing with Copy-Paste-Select until now, to use a completely different approach for the routing procedure by simulating an additional “Mix” key that they don’t even know about and therefore don’t miss.
Maybe I just don’t see it, but what could you do when copying a channel routing using the 3rd button “CH to All Mix” that you can’t do with the usual Copy-Select combination?
You can copy the processing no matter what screen is selected.
Why not copy routing no matter what screen is selected?
Only the channel needs to be selected.
What you mean with a third button?
Copy and the Ch2AllMix button. You don’t need to change the screen.
It will work if you are on the processing screen or any other screen.
If I already have the two different sections “Processing” and “Routing” to choose from, why would I necessarily want to copy processing in the “Routing” section?
You accidentally went a step further earlier with:
But if I don’t want to copy everything, but only the EQ, for example, I should be able to select it on the Processing screen, not the Routing screen.
Similarly, I could select on the Routing screen that I only want to copy the Mix sends or just the FX sends.
For all of this, I wouldn’t need a Mix or a CH to All Mix button.
You can copy from the EQ In button on the surface.
It is possible without the screen.
Copy a part of the processing is doable with the switches only. There needs no screen to be involved.
I’m surprised that you don’t know that. That is a real workflow speed up.
And it’s written in the quick start guide.
Why shouldn’t I know or use this?
My whole point here is to raise awareness that a sensible use of the two sections, Processing and Routing, for copying would be very useful, which is also the suggestion of the topic starter.
I’ll repeat my vision again:
If I want to copy the complete processing of a channel, I select the Processing screen and press Copy and Select.
If I want to copy the complete routing of a channel, I select the Routing screen and press Copy and Select.
Exactly the same logical process and without having to assign any additional meaning to the “CH to All Mix” button.
Precisely for this reason, the vision of additional use of the two screens, because, for example, there is no button for preamps (see topic start) - and also no button for copying only the FX sends.
But that’s a version that will probably never have a chance of being realized with the SQ.
But why should I change the screens if it’s possible without?
If you press the CH to AllMix button, what happens?
Imagine if you copy exactly this with the same key?
It is the only key to show the sends from one channel on the faders, and isn’t it that what we want to copy in the most situations where fast copy of the routing is necessary?
I agree that the screen is the way to go if you need to copy only FX sends or DCA assignments.
But the entire channels routing is doable with the CH to AllMix button.
If you don’t like it, don’t use it.
I believe that you are too tied to the screen.
With the surface buttons, you can be faster and more flexible than you might imagine.
To follow the rule, copy a section with its In switch, the CH to AllMix would be the logical place for a shortcut.
Pasting is different, and it ever was.
You can copy a section of a channel,
but you can paste the copied section with the select switch or the section in switch.
The same could be possible for the routing.
This enables the possibility to paste the copied settings to much more destinations as shown on the screen.
I realize we simply have two completely different logics here, and we could repeat them endlessly.
Perhaps someone else has an opinion on the topic, but perhaps SQ users generally have less need to copy a channel’s routing.
I, for one, have missed it many times.
You missed the entire point. There is no opposite logic here.
On other A&H console models, both possible implementations exist in common.
You can use switches (mix) to copy routings and assignments and the screen gives additional possibilities or finer granularity, but the switches enable faster workflow without the involvement of the screen for the quick and dirty actions.
But the screen mode buttons are never involved.
Why do you think that the use of the CH to All Mix button would break any existing workflow?
I don’t get that part.
Because the CH to All Mix button isn’t part of the channel strip (like a mix button).
But okay, I want to give myself another chance to understand your preferred procedure:
Please write down all the keystrokes I need to make to copy the channel routing from 1 to 2 and 3.